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[โ€“] ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That's a bad comparison tbh. Bluetooth audio isn't a superior technology over wired audio (in many ways it's inferior). The two have always been included together with no issue until one company decided to drop one of them in order to more easily sell more expensive and less durable stuff. Other companies followed like sheep.

[โ€“] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

With aptx codec, its nearly the same as cd quality without the hassle of cds.

[โ€“] ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

A data rate of 352kbps for aptX and 576kbps for aptX HD is hardly cd quality. It's plenty for Spotify of course.

I'm not against BT headphones, but you don't need to remove the headphone jack for it.

[โ€“] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

A data rate of 352kbps for aptX and 576kbps for aptX HD is hardly cd quality.

Those are compressed bitrates of the full 1.4mbps of a cd. Aptx hd is near lossless. You'd have to be a serious audiophile to notice the difference. Which case, are you going to be listening from your phone with its shitty DAC?

[โ€“] ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

You'd have to be a serious audiophile to notice the difference

Sure, I didn't say otherwise. It's enough for most people. A compressed bitrate is just not lossless. But again, for use with Spotify, which most do and isn't more than 320kbps, it's plenty. But that doesn't negate that it's still not better than wired.

your phone with its shitty DAC?

Totally depends on your phone, just like your BT headphones/earbuds. Not all phones have shitty DACs.

You drew a comparison between tape and cd, one of which is clearly superior. That's just not the case between wired and BT. Both can be together in one device.

[โ€“] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You drew a comparison between tape and cd, one of which is clearly superior. That's just not the case between wired and BT. Both can be together in one device.

Quality wise, tape can be pretty close to CD. But most tape decks were shit. CDs were largely adopted because of convenience, not their audio quality. The majority of people only care about convenience.

That's just not the case between wired and BT. Both can be together in one device.

With added cost for a feature few use.

[โ€“] ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Expensive tapes can come close to CDs, but generally tapes are noisier (outside of just the tapedeck), have a worse dynamic range and frequency response and they degrade over time. And indeed it's not all about sound quality. CDs are more convenient in quite a few ways while not really sacrificing quality and affordability and that does help a lot.

The only convenience BT adds is not having wires, which is valid, but that's about it. In case of headphones and earbuds, BT also has inconveniences like batteries, BT pairing bs, more latency, worse mics and generally being way more expensive than a decent pair of wired earbuds.

With added cost for a feature few use.

Barely any cost, if any noticable cost at all. Phones are more expensive than ever. A headphone jack is not going to make much difference compared to the price increase of decent BT headphones/earbuds. And the reason few use it anymore is because everyone was forced to move to BT (or a dongle, which also sucks) due to phones almost collectively dropping the jack.

[โ€“] zpiritual@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago

Hardly. The quality is worse than the mp3s I downloaded from the pirate bay back in the day. Aptx hd is better but fairly uncommon. Sbc in high bitrate wounds fairly good but I've only come across it on linux with pipewire.