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I'm sceptical about AI programming Pacman, but it's fairly obvious that the New York Times is leaning into AI journalism ..
Not that long ago the algorithms that controlled the enemies in video was called AI, that's what they trying to mislead with.
I've been calling it enemy behaviour since the first time I programmed one like 15 years ago. AI was never the right word for how game npcs and enemies work but it stuck anyway 😞
Developers don't call it AI, but players have been calling npc behavior "AI" since forever.
Nah, stuff like the A* algorithm is called Pathing AI and stuff like Steering Behaviors (the kind of simple rules for agent movement that you would see in simulating fish shoals or bird flocks - or more generally "boids" - though it can be used for other stuff) is also sometimes called AI.
Basically the kind of algorithms that make something seem the behave in a lifelike or intelligent way was what tended to be called AI.
The stuff using the kind of technologies that are also in things like LLMs (such as Neural Networks) is called ML (for Machine Learning).
It's just that the Tech Bros in this latest scam of their have changed the general understood meaning of the acronym AI.
Pathfinding algorithms happen to be what my bachelor thesis was about. Something like D* could generously be called AI as it does modify its parameters as the terrain becomes known or it changes. I don't think A* is still being used in games today.
But yes, once it became common to call any npc behavior "AI" by gamers, it has been adopted by game developers too.
A* is still very common in games. Part of that is momentum: a lot of libraries use it under the hood and haven't updated, and there are so many tutorials for A* it's practically synonymous with pathfinding
IMO, A* in RTS games tended to create a lot of situations like "ore truck runs around two long cliff faces and through the enemy base because that's the closest ore patch in a straight line". They mostly fixed this by having specific harvesting locations like Starcraft, as opposed to big ore fields like C&C used to have. Actual pathfinding is as bad as it ever was, but the mechanics and maps were developed to work around it.
When I was at computer toucher school at about the start of the century, under the moniker AI were taught (I think) fuzzy logic, incremental optimization and graph algorithms, and neural networks.
AI is a sci-fi trope far more than it ever was a well-defined research topic.
@Architeuthis
I took an "AI" class in college around ninety-dickety-3 and it was basically just a LISP class.
I dropped it because the instructor would constantly get a bit of foam in the corner of his mouth and I couldn't even.
When you think about it, AI is never the correct word for anything. Only in science fiction can be used somewhat well.
And labeled as “CPU” in games
I'm sad that game AI is a foreign concept now :(.
I mean sure if you call updating path finding algorithms AI be my guest... I would call it maths.