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But rolling over is not an option. The military isn't going to kill all the workers. The workers are more important than any other group. If the workers strike, the rich suffer.
I’m not sure if anyone told you, but if the workers strike- everyone will also suffer. Including non combatant civilians.
When the resistance in territories occupied by nazi germany and imperial japan killed a high ranking official of the occupying force, the occupiers would round up innocent people and shoot to kill them on the streets. "Reprisals" is what it's called. But do you think the resistance should've given up? Surrender to nazi germany and imperial japan just to avoid the "reprisals"? No, because if they had done that, the whole world would be speaking german and japanese.
lol… it’s not the 1940’s. You know this right? It’s important that you know this.
Yeah guys! It's very important that we learn nothing from history and that we ignore the signs of fascism rearing its head once more. /s
lol /s
Obviously. What do you think happens to the workers once they're enslaved? The workers need to unite NOW, if they're ever gonna have a chance to pull the rich and powerfull down into the mud.
But what is your solution to the current issue then?
So… your solutions is basically to fuck everyone and just stop everything. lol….
Good luck with that.
My solution?
My solution is to have had everyone vote back in November. That way the bed we’re now having to lie in wouldn’t have been made for us in such a way that would lead to you and I having to have this conversation.
But considering the fact that my solution requires manipulating the laws of physics, and fits has a barely above zero chance of succeeding.
We’re fucked and all we can do is wait it out.
So just don't do anything, and hope your slaveowner will be nice? Got it. He won't, and a lot of people will die because you don't give enough of a shit.
Words look so cool when strung together to make a rallying statement of intent to act, don’t they.
But you all seem to always fall short of action.
There was supposed to be an uprising in November, December, January, February, March, shall I go on?
You all are so quick to climb over one another to be the first to pat yourselves on the back for typing up the coolest words to inspire OTHERS to act. You all salivate at the idea of bringing all types of violence to Nazis, the upper classes, the CEOs… yet, nothing. Words.
Here I’m only speaking the truth. I’ll make no apologies that you don’t like it or that it’s unpopular. Im too old and too tired of pretending to believe that any of you have the strength of conviction to leave your houses let alone begin a grassroots movement to make change. So forgive me for not buying into this make believe army of yours.
For fuck’s sake. Tend of thousands of you couldn’t be bothered to tick a fucking box to save democracy.
Now you’re wanting everyone to believe you’re willing to lay down your life for it? Pretend all you want bud. But don’t get mad when people call you out.
Fucking LOL.
Voter turnout is always highest for presidential elections, and the last two have had the highest in decades. Yet that is still in the low 60's. Any ideas for how to increase turnout?
vote harder!
A fascist dictator who laid out exactly what he was going to do in a bullet pointed manefesto was enough for me. But considering that this wasn’t enough to make people get off their asses and check a fucking box- I really don’t see anyone scrambling to arms.
There was no box with a non-genocide collaborator.
Looks like you ended up with all that genocide but now with a side of LGBTQ+ persecution, illegal deportations, and concentration camps!
How’s all that winning feeling bud?
No one said anything about winning. I think their point was that it was all losing.
So let’s just loose even more then, right? I can’t fucking stand people that are so smugly arrogant and entitled that they think no one will be affected by their ignorance.
Their wishful thinking remain so regardless of how badly they want it, and the result of their wishful thinking got us trump.
I think ypu are falling for the trap of blaming the other victims. No matter how people voted, the person doing the evil is still who needs to be blamed. Well him, and the system that let him get there in the first place. Your anger is justified, but directing it at people you have never met, and most of whichs vote made no difference (lot of blue state voters didn't vote, but the state still went blue) is only going to cause more people to be disillusioned and not vote.
We had all that under Biden too, and Kamala promised to do what Trump had been doing, but more competently.
I don’t debate of even bother with people that make shit up in order to be a part of, or stay in the discussion.
Either play within the margins of reality, or go home.
Do you not remember the Migrant overflow facilities they concentrated immigrants in under Biden, in greater numbers? Oh right, you went back to brunch once a D was doing the same shit we all agreed was bad when Trump was doing it.
LOL "wait it out"
What a bunch of pathetic weaklings.
Where's your american heroes patriot biggest fighter for freedom stand up for what we believe in greatest country democracy in the universe talk now?
LOL “pathetic weaklings”
What wouldn’t you suggest they do? And keep in mind, your suggestion needs to include something you yourself are willing to do.
Because it seems so easy for so many to send tens of thousands of people to their deaths. Put up or shut up.
And for the record, blind ignorance fuels blanket accusations. Never in my entire life have I ever said american’s are heroes, patriots, the biggest fighters for freedom. The last time I stood for anything American was the pledge when I was in gradeshool.
So you’re free to take your shit and shove it right back to where you found it.
If you did have a time machine, how would you get everyone to vote?
trade stock tips? with the time machine you could even go to an earlier time to exploit knowledge of economic trends, and then make multiple trips to the day before the election.. every time you run out of time, just go back 24h again.
Oh there’d be no way I alone would be able to move that mountain. The concept I spoke of involved everyone from right now, going back to 2024 knowing then what we know now…. for a do-over.
But the more I read through the comments, the more I have to accept that many of the people here would chose not change a fucking thing.
There’s tons of people here who were here during the election that were crying and shouting for everyone to not vote blue.
Every single one of them that haven’t run away or rolled an alt so as to return to play the victim of their own decisions- are still going on about that shit. Not a single one admitting they made a mistake and that they wished they could have helped stop this. Not ONE. Yet you don’t see anyone wishing they hadn’t voted against Trump. Even if they (like me) had to plug their nose to do it.
So at this point, I think the collective ignorance has reached such a profound level, that it would be impervious to any form of modification via time travel. It’s so much a part of our fucking culture now, that there’s no chance we wouldn’t just take that shit back there with us. Hell, I’d go so far as to say that our ignorance so fucking prevalent within us that I honestly believe that at this point- it’s embedded into our evolutionary process- essentially….
stupidity is in our DNA.
You know how you could change it? By convincing the DNC they will 100% lose on the platform and actions that made them lose. Nothing else, going back and trying to tell millions of people that ICE will send people to concentration camps and deprive them of due process and give Israel unlimited logistical and diplomatic support as they commit a genocide, and they will say "...like theyre doing now?"