If you can't have Graphene or Calyx (once they're back up) there's still /e/OS, they also got a 1-Click Installer for a few devices. As well as a how-to for several hundred. And iodeOS I guess.

[–] Engywuck@lemmy.zip 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

...if bootloader unlocking will be allowed...

[–] ChilledPeppers@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago

*if google /OEMs still provide drivers for AOSP (check calyxos blog, google stopped doing it and it is killing custom ROMS)

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Pixels are good, what are you talking about?

[–] Engywuck@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

For the price, hardware-wise are underwhelming (see benchmarks).

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 3 points 2 days ago

I daily drive a Pixel 8 Pro and it's never felt underpowered to me. I have no need or desire to look at benchmarks.

It's a fair point to make to say they're expensive, but that's not really relevant to their actual quality or performance, both of which are fine. And the used market seems pretty good for these things, too.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 3 points 3 days ago

I have no issue with my older Pixel devices. You're use-case isn't everyone's use-case.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If google is gonna ban sideloading, surely they will lock their bootloaders first.

[–] traceur201@piefed.social 6 points 3 days ago

Leaving in the bootloader unlock gives people who want to retain sideloading a place to retreat to that google still ultimately controls. Which is more appealing to a sociopathic corporation than cutting people off entirely

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I see it this way.

Google wants everyone using gapps to be identified but isn't outright saying you can't use Android without certification.

"Google says that only apps with verified identities will be installable on certified Android devices, which is virtually every Android-based device—if it has Google services on it, it's a certified device"

So LOS and Graphene may get off the hook on this and be able to install whatever non-google apps they need. By default, neither have google services.

Sucks for the gapps people, but, I mean. They knew it was coming, right?

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But the point is, manufacturers will comply because otherwise their phones won't sell.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 1 points 3 days ago

Looks to me like they've been complying for 20 years or so. No real change needed on their part.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 days ago

If you have a compatible phone. As long as the allow those compatible phones to be made.

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Sidelading apps on android is never technical anyone could install an apk. It's just the safety that you need to be technical when doing so. Also fuck my phone which doesn't allow unlockibg bootloader

[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

At least on Samsung phones, they used to have you open the Settings (this is enough to deter 50% of non technical users) and look for an allow button which is protected by two fullscreen danger warnings (there goes the other 50%)

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

Mine is vivo, and there is no known way of safely unlocking bootloader

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're over estimating common users

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

All my homies know how to install apks. Almost nobody knows to install custom roms, let alone the phone having ability to install so

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 days ago

Even I was able to get GrapheneOS running on my old Pixel >.>