Privacy

41273 readers

433 users here now

A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.

Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.

Some Rules

Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn't great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post
Don't promote proprietary software
Try to keep things on topic
If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered
Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience
Be nice :)

Related communities

much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)

founded 5 years ago

MODERATORS

284

Is there still any hope for privacy phones? 2025 and beyond (lemmy.ml)

submitted 2 days ago by ComradePedro@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

153 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Google has been trying to make Android proprietary for a few years now, and that's not news, as many AOSP default apps have been abandoned over time in favor of proprietary Google ones. This was never a huge problem for me, as you can still use those apps without network access or use open source alternatives like Fossify on a custom ROM.

However, the situation is quickly getting worse, now that Google is actively trying to prevent the development of custom ROMs and taking a page from Apple's book by forcing developers to beg them for permission to release apps on the Android platform, even outside of the Play Store - giving Google full control.

Is there still any hope left for privacy respecting Android ROMs? What do you think will happen next? And what would be your suggestions for those looking for a phone in 2025?

If you have a different perspective on the situation, also please comment below!

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 62 points 2 days ago (5 children)

We need the EU to regulate Banking and Payment apps to not rely on Google apis first and mandate that they have to be available in open app stores or as apk.

[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

Right now the EU regulation is pushing banks to require more of Google or Apple because it's unclear and banks won't take a chance of getting fined.

Among the requirements are: ensure the device and the OS were not "altered". What does that mean exactly? Answer: [crickets].

But that's why many banks just go with the Google Play Integrity API.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They don't even do that with their own apps.

[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 11 points 2 days ago

Maybe they can regulate themselves first as a start then. They already use Matrix, so it’s not like they are completely lost regarding IT Security and FOSS.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They don't seem to care about Apple cut for other app stores why would they care about this.

[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago

Cause it’s a European / national security concern in the long run.

[–] lemonySplit@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Even just forcing them to stop blocking access on the website when they detect a phone would be nice.

I have to enable desktop mode on ironfox since ~2 years ago for my bank. Then the scaling is terrible and its hard to click buttons

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Exactly. It's like we've somehow been told that we must support only the main 2 OSs and nothing else.