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[–] mhague@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

What changed between the 'months of torture' and Naruto and Safine being arrested, and the '10 days ' leading up to his death?

It sounds sick that the French government would decide a man is being tortured yet they're not obligated to intervene... while at the same time they fine a company for not stepping in.

If this man was negligently killed, authorities and kick are to blame, but it's the authorities that should've been the failsafe, not the company. I guess it makes sense that French politicians are Very Mad™ and Seriously Considering Bigger Punishments™.

[–] Geobloke@aussie.zone 13 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It's not the French government issuing the fine, it's the Australian, where the company is hosted. They probably should have hosted themselves in the US and hid behind the first amendment

[–] Patch@feddit.uk 2 points 10 hours ago

I'm not exactly a US constitutional lawyer, but I'm willing to bet that snuff films aren't protected by the First Amendment.

[–] moodymellodrone@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

Exactly. Law enforcement investigated and found no wrongdoing. They’re the ones who dropped the ball here. Was there something else Kick was legally obligated to do? I agree that there was a moral fuck up here resulting in somebody dying. But torture between competent consenting adults is legal. Just like we’re saying BDSM is okay

Also someone else mentioned the TV show Jackass and I just wanna know how some are drawing the line here. So are some of the dangerous stunts on Jackass ok or not? Why?

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 3 points 12 hours ago

It seemed that for Jackass ultimately noone was killed. Also it seems that the participants were not in a vulnerable situation that was exploited, but engaged with full consent and were able to give consent.

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 16 hours ago

Jackass stunts and fights aren't sustained over multiple days ever

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Exactly the autorities should be help accountable too