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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The information was key for a wrongful death case the survivor and the victim’s family were building against Tesla, but the company said it didn’t have the data.

Then a self-described hacker, enlisted by the plaintiffs to decode the contents of a chip they recovered from the vehicle, found it while sipping a Venti-size hot chocolate at a South Florida Starbucks. Tesla later said in court that it had the data on its own servers all along.

Joel Smith, Tesla’s attorney, said in an interview that the company was “clumsy” in its handling of the data but did not engage in any impropriety with regard to it. “It is the most ridiculous perfect storm you’ve ever heard,” Smith said, in an effort to explain why Tesla was unable to produce the collision snapshot data until after the hacker retrieved it for the plaintiffs.

In court, Smith told jurors in his opening statement that Tesla would “never think about hiding” the data because it proved that the driver had time to react to the pedestrians standing by their parked car had he been paying attention.

“We didn’t think we had it, and we found out we did,” he said. “And, thankfully, we did because this is an amazingly helpful piece of information.”

For reference, here is a poem called the Narcissist's Prayer:

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

If I was on the jury or I was the judge in a non-jury trial and this happened, I would have pushed for the largest decision possible. No company or person should be allowed to act like this.

[–] rainwall@piefed.social 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The jury basically did exactly that. They weren't buying Tesla's multi-year denial that they had the data as an "oopsy doopsy" story.

They found Tesla liable for $235 million. It's the first case Tesla hasent been able to settle, and that's a big ol' number. They are going to have more lawsuits coming.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tesla’s attorney, said in an interview that the company was “clumsy” in its handling of the data but did not engage in any impropriety with regard to it.

You know what really ticks me off? Every driving Joe and Jane learns that negligence or ignorance or "clumsiness" does not excuse you from breaking the rules.

A very basic tenet of lawfulness. Which does not seem to apply to multi-billion-money-corpos.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

And it’s strange, because corporations are sposto be people now right?

What a fucking joke.