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That's right Gavin Newsom should declare to be the Governor of the Americas

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[–] Caffeinated_Sloth@lemmy.world 143 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

I don’t like him, but this is funny.

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 100 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

I love the purpose that he's serving right now, but when the 2028 presidential primaries roll around I hope he gets completely creamed and then goes away forever.

[–] Caffeinated_Sloth@lemmy.world 30 points 4 weeks ago

I agree. I also hope there’s someone to actually root for.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

People are saying that he is doing it to run in 2028, he is actually dating we might not have a free and fair election in 28:

https://youtube.com/shorts/cZpka6EX1l8

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 18 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The impression I get from listening to him talk is that he is preparing to be president before 2028, just of a new nation.

Like you said he doesn't seem to think there will be an election ( I agree) so he is positioning himself to take California and some others and go.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I need to get out of my red shit hole state when that all goes down

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

Moving from Florida to Oregon was the best decision my wife and I ever made.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The real question is whether the mid terms next fall will happen. They can be avoided by a declaration of war.

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

It needs to be more than a declaration of war. We've had elections and midterms during war.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml -5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

What's the purpose? Like, in a positive sense. I just see this as more liberal distraction from actual material change. Making people feel like there is a means of resistance within the current system that has become overcome by fascist.

It gives people the false sense of "something being done". When it gives us no more progress than a new episode of South Park.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 26 points 4 weeks ago

The purpose is humiliation. That's it, really. Fascists NEED you to respect them. If not their governing, then you must respect their power and violence and stay in line. If you do not respect them, and laugh at them. They crumble.

Bats and guns help with the crumbling. But laughing is great too.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

There’s nothing being done here but it’s holding turnip up for ridicule. Even the most diehard MAGA groupies haven’t see how ridiculous that shit is

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net -1 points 4 weeks ago

So sad that you're downvoted for being correct. People would rather feel good tripe that strokes their egos than actual political progress.

The people of the US are sheep.

[–] frog_brawler@piefed.social 65 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Seems like he's the only governor that read the part about defeating fascists through humiliation. I am not a big fan of his previous policies, but he is the only person that's even slightly left of center presenting any fortitude right now.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 25 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Left of center with regards to AMERICAN politics but very much center right by any other metric.

Still enjoying what he's doing though.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Newsome is firmly on the right, he doesn't touch center. Bernie and AOC are centrists. The only person even remotely on the left that has a national presence is Zohran.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

The truth is certainly somewhere between our two comments, yes.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 weeks ago

It is so immemsely stupid that this is an effective strategy for both making non Trumpers giggle, and also just troll the fuck out of ....seemingly non sentient Trump supporters...

But then again, mockery has always been at least fairly effective against fascists, at least as a form.of rhetoric... hopefully this can at least buoy some morale to be able to translate into meaningful action.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 13 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

It's amazing how a man who I considered evil from 2020-2023 has redeemed himself with a sense of humor.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 49 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

He's still evil, but the Overton window has shifted to where normal people prefer literally a sack of shit over the current corrupt nazi pedophile

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s just a staffer he hired. It’s not really him.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Then I want to know who the staffer is, because I want to vote for them.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure Camille Zapata isn't running for office and doesn't want to 🤷

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 weeks ago

"You're gonna be president whether you want to or not, missy!" 😄

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s hard to elect a marketing company. However I think this may work

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 weeks ago

nowadays companies are people legally so why not

/s

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

and GW Bush was once considered a dunce, now he's the Republican brain trust.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

He was always smart tho - look at any of his speeches as governor of TX.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 weeks ago

Yea, his "country bumpkin" schtick was always an act to get popularity and make himself seem like an Everyman candidate.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I just find it incredibly depressing that this shit is what gets people interested in politics. It's no wonder our country is circling the drain.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The average, adult American reads at a 5th to 6th grade level.

~15% of adult Americans are functionally illiterate, ie, read at a 1st to 2nd grade level or worse.

This is why the Republican long game has been to destroy public educations: morons are easier to trick.

Also, Twtitter was a mistake, way before Elon bought it.

Ah, yes, lets reduce politcal discourse to the character limit of only slogans, and then later be surprised that everyone only reacts to clever short snippets that necessarily disinclude complexity and context.

Twitter largely blew up as a social platform for two reasons:

Celebrities joined, back when that was still a term that meant something, before everyone became a micro-celebrity / influencer via later short form video platforms...

And also prominent, mostly Democrat politicians joined, and used it for political messaging.

So, this is to a large part the Dems fault as well, they spearheaded the idea of realtime political messaging in tiny idiot snippets.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ugh, when twitter took over political discourse back when it had the most restrictive character limit was when things really went to shit and tanked what little patience people had for politics.

How effective that was at just controlling narrative with ease at appealing to populism is why Musk went after it in the first place. It is so much easier to maintain a fallacious argument (which is what right-wing logic is founded on to play on people's innate biases) when your opponent is limited in how they are able to word their counter arguments, where they can focus on the vagaries to accuse it of inconsistency, or take the time to post a long chain that most people won't bother following while the main discussion is replying to the original fallacy, steering the conversation while you struggle to keep up.

And it's only gotten worse with how all mainstream social media is evolving under capitalism. Which is the worst part. Dems saw how effective it was too but the mechanisms of capitalism allowed Musk to wrest control of the platform and disenfranchise political opponents and silence experts under the guise of the "free market" and "free speech".

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yep.

It is literally a reformation of the very medium of political discourse, and ... as we should but apparently do not know... to a great extent, the medium is the message.

Its analagous to NewSpeak.

Its not the vocabulary that has been top down rewritten... but, the maximum length of a sentence, a thought.

Now its all so much worse with tiktok and insta... thats why some of us are here on lemmy, where it is at least possible to have a long form discussion.

[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

If you trust everyone in your coalition it’s not a coalition.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Is it a coalition if you can't trust them to not betray those in the coalition?