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Three years of building no-code software for political organizations (write.as)

submitted 6 days ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to c/opensource@programming.dev

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[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

No/Low-Code: Letting people who don't know what they're doing half-ass things poorly without understanding the first thing about it and leaving them completely incapable of fixing it when something goes wrong and then pissing off actual developers when they have to go into the Playskool interface to fix it.

[–] misk@piefed.social 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I’ve worked in business process automation for a bit. In most cases I’ve seen no/low-code is introduced when IT can no longer service technical debt and won’t deliver any new features within reasonable timeframes (usually a result of decades of underfunding). No „real” developer will be ever fixing no/low-code solutions either because why would they? Are they going to fix something in an alien tech stack? Are they going to implement this functionality properly? No, because they never had resources to do that.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"So we have this procedure in Excel which the entire department relies on"

[–] misk@piefed.social 3 points 6 days ago

I have inherited and also created and passed on many of those Excel files in my professional life. They get a bad rep but they’re also as bad as everyone says.

[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Why would we? lol, we wouldn't. But when management says "Help Delores with her app problem", what are you gonna do?

[–] misk@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago

I’m probably biased because I only work for big corpos and it would never be this simple there. IT is usually safe from this kind of dumb stuff, but then again that insulation might have been part of the reason why business people were considering no/low-code.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 days ago

Well yeah but if the example is Yunohost and web interfaces, this makes sense

Will not support complex firewall setups or even AI scraper protection, wireguard tunnels, tailscale/headscale/whatever alternative but it is an easy docker frontend I guess