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[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 115 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is weirdly almost a progressive mindset but somehow seems to miss the point and make it about blaming the victim.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

It's basically how I feel about people that complain about taxes making it so they get paid less money. Take it up with your fucking boss.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 117 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"The problem is that the job doesn't pay enough!"

"Yes, exactly!"

"So that lazy POOR should've gotten a better one!"

"??????????"

It's amazing how conservatives miss the point so reliably. I imagine it's intentional for Bench Appearo, but many others are probably just genuinely that blinkered in their thinking.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago

Find out what poor-paying job that poor person holds. Now ask yourself, "if everyone with this job were to vacate, how would that affect me?"

See? See how you can still be selfish but slightly less stupid at the same time?

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seriously, so by Ben's argument, the best thing for poor people to do is either 1. Organize into a labor union to negotiate better wages, or 2. Use violence against the rich as a valid tactic to improve your wages.

But conservatives HATE those two little tricks...

[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

His advice is technically correct, but very vague & not super helpful. He says you need to:

  1. Explore your talents, skills, strengths, etc. Identify them.

  2. Find an outlet or a need in society that plays to your strengths, skills.

  3. Make it pay a lot of money.

Technically not wrong. That's all easier said than done, and it can be hard landing a job that really pays.

[–] whyrat@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago

Hard to do all those things without support. Student loans for example would allow someone to survive without a low wage job while developing more valuable skills.

What's the conservative position on those again? Checks notes... well fuck you too!

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

It allows them to feel an increased agency

[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ben Shapiro is big on taking personal responsibility for everything. Your life, your fault. Essentially.

It's interesting when he talks about his family background, very solidly middle class & it involved his dad playing piano at hotels, clubs for tips? Between that & his mother I guess it was enough to pay the bills.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 19 points 23 hours ago

Because they grew up during a time when you could do that, and then pulled the ladder up behind them.

My step dad bought a farm and raced Ford Broncos for fun doing odds jobs out in a farming community. You'd be lucky to have a roof over your head and 3 meals a day doing odd jobs now.