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[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Israel is included in Eurovision and the European Union includes Asian land within its borders so itโ€™s relevant to discuss how we want to steer this ship.

[โ€“] DmMacniel@feddit.org 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No it's not. That the ebu invites Israel and Australia is just idiotic.

[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

They're involved in the organization and Cyprus is geographically situated in Asia paving the door for "Israel to join" that some individuals are proposing.

[โ€“] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Cyprus is located on the Eurasian tectonic Plate, mate.

And with your logic, it would also pave the door for every other Asian country, not just Israel. So why are you so focused on them?

[โ€“] SadJustSad@sh.itjust.works -3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

There is no such thing as europe anyway. It's just a racist concept the white have made up to distinguish themselves from yellow and brown people. How come the Ural is a continental boundary and the alps, the andes, the rockes aren't? Bitch please

Bit of an assumption.

The earliest notions of Europe as a continent are from a time where your neighbors who speak a slightly different dialect are the worst scum imaginable. Racism didn't even exist (since races did not exist in anyone's mind), xenophobia against everyone who dared to live right next to you was where all discrimination was based on.

We're talking 600 BCE for the concept of Europe and Asia as separate geographical regions to emerge.

[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 1 points 4 days ago

I appreciate your contributions however we must keep this thread civil.

[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 0 points 4 days ago

Itโ€™s actually located outside of it. Israel is geographically close to Cyprus.

[โ€“] DmMacniel@feddit.org 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In what way is the door paved?

[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You know what Iโ€™m saying.

[โ€“] DmMacniel@feddit.org 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No I don't, and I don't mean your mangled idiom but the intention behind it.

How does Cyprus or Australia being part of the EBU pave the road to Israel becoming a member of the EU?

[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm talking about Cyprus being in the european union.

[โ€“] DmMacniel@feddit.org 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No you were talking about Israel joining the EU?

[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not only that but French Guiana is in the union too. The EU's land isn't confined to Europe.

[โ€“] DmMacniel@feddit.org 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Because French Guinana is part of France.

[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't that way further away then Israel is to the european union?

[โ€“] DmMacniel@feddit.org 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

French Guinana is still France and last I checked the map it's pretty much in the hearthlands of the EU.

Heck if Greenland wasn't autonomous it would also be part of the EU because of Denmark.

[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

French Guiana isnโ€™t located in continental europe, thatโ€™s what the debate is about.

[โ€“] DmMacniel@feddit.org 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That doesn't matter. French Guiana is French Territory, that is what matters. And as such is part of the EU.

[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It does since geography is arbitrarily used against countries people personally disagree with from joining the european union. One could argue that Quebec is part of France and should be in the european union if they didn't lose the 7 year war.

[โ€“] DmMacniel@feddit.org 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Why then argue that Israel should join because it's closer to the EU than Cyprus and French Guinana, when geography shouldn't matter if a nation should join the EU?

And no Quebec belongs to Canada. Noone should argue about that.

[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Youโ€™re putting words in my mouth, Iโ€™m saying Israel could join not should.

[โ€“] DmMacniel@feddit.org 2 points 10 hours ago

Yeah you are right my bad.

[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There was also talk of "Israel joining Nato"

[โ€“] DmMacniel@feddit.org -1 points 4 days ago

Okay and that paves the road to Israel joining the EU how?