What does defederating from Meta's Threads.net actually accomplish? (lemmy.one)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Kurt@lemmy.one to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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Afaik, whenever an Activitypub instance has defederated from another it has always had to do with some combination of bad user behavior, poor moderation, and/or spam. Are the various instance admins who have decided to preemptively block threads.net simply convinced that these traits will be inevitable with it? Is it more of a symbolic move, because we all hate Meta? Or is the idea to just maintain a barrier (albeit a porous one) between us and the part of the Internet inhabited by our chuddy relatives?

(For my part, I'm working on setting up my own Lemmy and/or Pixelfed instance(s) and I do not currently intend to defederate.)

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[-] RxBrad@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep. On one hand, I'd be super-concerned if Reddit decided they were federating with Lemmy. Reddit would create /c's on their instance for all of their /r's and completely torpedo all of the existing Lemmy communities.

Mastodon is just users though. You don't generally see users in your feed unless you actively follow them -- or if you decide to drink from the firehose and go look at the All feed. And it's not like Meta can "take over" Mastodon hashtags like Reddit could take over communities. Hashtags are server agnostic.

And unless you sign up on their server, I honestly don't see how Meta can pilfer more data than they already can by just scraping public servers.

Just please don't let Meta diddle the ActivityPub protocols. They need to adapt to the protocols. Nobody should be adapting the protocols to them.

[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 2 points 1 year ago

It would still be nice to be able to use the All feed though, and not have it filled with giga-engagement posts from hundreds of millions of Threads users.

[-] BURN@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The all feed is already just porn every time I open mine (Lemmy.world) - I’ve already more or less written it off as a useless part of the site (through nobodies fault)

[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 1 points 1 year ago

You can disable NSFW on your profile for now (although not perfect - it also removes non-porn NSFW).

You can manually block all porn communities that pop up on All, which although tedious will eventually work.

Hopefully better content tagging and filtering, along with the ability to block instances on a user level (such as lemmynsfw.com) will mitigate this in the future.

Still, just because something isn't working well at this stage due to a lack of features (Lemmy is still at an early stage) doesn't mean it won't in the future. Saying "fuck it, All doesn't work well right now so let's let Meta fill it" seems a bit rash.

[-] BURN@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I need NSFW enabled for a few communities that use it as spoiler tags unfortunately.

I just don’t see the point in an all feed. I’m perfectly good with using my local feed. That’s why I’m on Lemmy.world. I have little to no interest in most instances and just stick to the one I signed up on. As it is now, if threads federated I’d likely see no change. Id have to go specifically looking for that content.