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[–] the_frumious_bandersnatch@programming.dev 61 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Why are these people so desperate to find some external factor for autism?

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 74 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Because the anti-vax people who have autistic kids hate their children. They hate that they're not perfect and "normal". And they hate that they have to deal with a child that requires more care than other people's children do.

I think we should make banners and say it out loud to every single person who can hear.

#Anti-vaxxers HATE autistic children

#Especially if that autistic child is their own.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 7 points 3 weeks ago

I've never thought about it like that but it makes so much sense. The hate in the heart of these people runs incredibly deep, I know because my own family has disowned me because I refused to "take the red pill".

I am a leader in a youth organization and we have a few autistic kids in our group. They are wonderful kids, and their parents are just amazing with their patience and love for all the kids. I can't imagine the difficulties they face, but I'm so truly blessed and happy to have these kids in my and my children's lives. I've worked with special needs kids a few times, and the pure joy they are capable of is something that sticks with you.

But I've also known a few less involved and less interested parents who denied and refused care for their kids who clearly need help. I can't say I know the political persuasion of any of these folks, but I'm pretty good at inference...

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yep, this is precisely it.

I really seriously believe that autistic/neurodiverse people and especially kids should be viewed as a kind of class of person that is at high risk of being discriminated against, hate crimed, targetted by state violence.

Hans Apsberger was a fucking Nazi who ... literally coined the term autism and yes, he is the guy apsbergers is/was named after... and yes, he directly orchestrated the deaths of 'mentally disabled' children.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-truth-about-hans-aspergers-nazi-collusion/

They're gonna do another genocide, based on more junk science, just like the OG Nazis.

RFK Jr has already said he wants to take everyone on any kind of prescription psychiatric medication, move them to forced labor farms, house them in bunkhouses, remove their phones, all contact with the outside world, and also make them all quit their meds cold turkey.

https://slate.com/life/2025/06/donald-trump-rfk-jr-kennedy-health-wellness-farms.html

This is the kind of shit you hear TrueAnon describing cults doing.

But scaled way, way up.

This is a recipe for causing millions of psychotic breaks, just cold turkey, unmanaged total cessation, no gradual wind downs with check ins with therapists and such, also done in basically slave labor conditions.

Possibly also worth mentioning is RFK Jr's aunt Rosemary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary_Kennedy

She was suffocated as a newborn for 2 hours.

This caused her to be developmentally delayed.

They lobotomized her (while she was awake and conscious) at age 23.

This regressed her to the state of a 2 year old.

She was institutionalized and largely hidden from the public for the rest of her life.

....

This is literally Nazi mad scientist shit.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Does RFK have any autistic family? If love to know what triggered his crusade. It can't just be a belief in pseudoscience.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

His aunt got a lobotomy for maybe having a mental disorder

[–] mister_flibble@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

She was oxygen deprived at birth because the doctor was running late and the nurses wouldn't let her mother push until he got there. By the sounds of it she had some minor learning disabilities and possibly some impulse control issues as a result. Because that allegedly resulted in her being somewhat promiscuous, her asshole father had her lobotomized.

I suppose if one really wanted to play armchair psychiatrist, you could argue that the failures of medical science of the time may have contributed to him having a negative view of modern medicine as a whole. Not a defense of the rat bastard, just mildly interesting to think about.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 3 weeks ago

No, he's just an old narcissistic psychopath who is bitter because he's never had the respect that his father and uncles had, from the public, or even his own family, who hate him.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 44 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Because they can't cope with random chance, there has to be a cause. They need a villain.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Is that as those who are punished, in religion, deserve it? However children are innocent and usually autism is diagnosed in young people or children. So, they don't 'deserve' it? If it's just random, maybe other things are too and the preachers are making stuff up?

It's a long train of thought to get there. I'd say it's more just susceptibility to conspiratorial thinking, but who knows.

[–] Daemnyz@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

The parents can get punished by having an autistic child...

[–] sramder@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Sigh… here goes: because then they could “fix” it.

[–] Spezi@feddit.org 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They don’t want to fix it, they want to blame the victims for “causing it themselves”.

[–] Patches@ttrpg.network 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

🛎️ 🛎️ 🛎️

Not so gentle Reminder that republicans don't help or "fix" anyone period.

[–] sramder@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Uhhhhh… budddddy. Hopefully this didn’t happen to you. If it did you’re parents were kinda dicks 😔

[–] Spezi@feddit.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

Luckily not to me, but I know of a child that has autism where the parents were blamed by some related anti-vax parents for vaccinating their child.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

i don't need fixing. I just need support.

Source: Am Autie.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

To be on the spectrum is one thing, but low functioning autistic is just soul crushing for people to deal with. I've seen some siblings struggle just because their family was pretty much screwed trying to raise a low functioning autistic child. I think I've interacted with two such people in many years, so it's not particularly common compared to the larger population on the spectrum.

It's one reason I don't like autism as a spectrum, as there's a world of difference that doesn't seem right to cast one net over.

[–] sramder@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly! Were going to get you on the raw gerbil-milk diet, boost your immune system and kick those nasty n-grams right out of your poor cortex :-)

Everyones someones aspie 😎

[–] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Because the religious and/or kooks don't sit well with the chaos/randomness of life.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Because right-wing parents refuse to believe they have a genetic disorder in their in-bred families.

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Whoa, whoa, I don't like the insinuation that autism only comes from inbreeding either.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Depends on, many want a scapegoat to punish, many want a reason to try to "fix" us, and I guess many want a reason to leave those who are in need of support without it by blaming it onto them.