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It's very easy to lay down rules for boys. Don't ogle, grope, or otherwise assault someone just because they're wearing a two - piece swimsuit. Let people wear what they want, even if it's a white shirt. Don't let the outer appearance of anyone be the guide to make up a fantasy in your head and decide what kind of person they are.
See? That wasn't very hard.
I think not all hope is lost, but you're missing the point here, with a bit of the ol' "boys will be boys" attitude mixed in. First of all, it doesn't help to treat boys (or any teenager for that matter) as some form of intermittent lifeform on its way to achieve full sentience. They're not animals, and most of them haven't been dropped off in the jungle and were raised by wolves. They can, and have to, learn what is acceptable behavior, as well as empathy for those that surround them.
Dismissing any form of accountability and consistently shifting the blame to a 14 year old girl wearing a white shirt at a lake function enforces stereotypes and societal preconceptions that I can only call disgusting.
The rules aren’t because boys will “ogle” the girls, it’s because some religious fuckhead has inserted their views onto society.
Those in power want to enforce abrahamic religious norms. It about control, they don’t care about protecting children.
What are you talking about, boys will absolutely ogle girls, and sometimes other boys. They're teenagers! The thing is, it doesn't matter how prudish you try to be, they'll still do it. If they can see some ankle they'll fap to it later. The best outcome is if they're ogling someone too much and making that person uncomfortable, take them aside and privately tell them to knock that shit off. You don't need a bloody no looking rule that makes them feel sinful just for having a peek at someone clothed. You also wouldn't need a no touching rule if you just fluffing taught them consent at 10yo, around when you should be starting sex ed as well anyway.
I feel like we can teach consent in preschool; it applies to way more than sexual interaction, and would hopefully help kids identify when they're being abused.
Yeah honestly, you're right, we should be teaching bodily autonomy once kids are old enough to dress themselves (physically, idc if they want to wear the hero or princess outfit every day, let them! let 'boys' wear princess outfits too!!).
I dunno. I think a little ogling is fine, just don’t make people uncomfortable.
But yeah. Maybe don’t touch even if they’re naked without consent?
Edit: curious what the downvotes are for. Do people want to touch without consent? Because I sure as hell don’t to be touched, whether or not I have clothes on. And I wouldn’t want that on other people either