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For those who don't find "far-right" to be an applicable descriptor with what is known currently, I acknowledge that the meme creator could have been more precise with their word choice. However, I feel the difference is academic:

We can replace “far right” with the easily verified “not leftist” without changing the meme whatsoever, primarily because the meme is about Nancy Mace and her mercurial, disingenuous opinion, not (directly) about the shooter.

Edit - I modified it, though I still find it to be a distinction without a difference - alt version for those who prefer (whoops missed one first time)

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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 113 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Nice that they have so clearly broadcasted their double standards

It demonstrates that rational people should not attempt to compromise with these cultists and prioritise blocking and removal. They are not reliable or consistent.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Nobody moral (who believed, at the very least, in the virtue of honesty) or rational ever gave them anything but the middle finger. But America was cooked from the get go, and with a national ethos similar to that of a greedy, unstable rapist, Trump, MAGA and everything we're seeing now were inevitable.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I was just thinking about how i often fail to remember that this country was founded on the genocide of its prior inhabitants. We are the descendants of those responsible for that genocide. There is plenty of toxicity that got passed along the generations leading us here and it doesn't seem likely it's gonna go away.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

America's big problem has always been that the arguments against self-improvement have always been self-referential.

Take gun laws for example, the big arguement against implementing gun restrictions is that would violate the second amendment. They don't want to change the law, because changing the law would violate the current law.

Until America as a nation except that a 250 year old document is not necessarily relevant in the 21st century things will never improve.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yep. And it goes back further. The religious freedom the Puritans wanted was essentially to be able to be more authoritarian.

The puritans[2] who settled New England in 1630 were not coming to America to promote religious freedom for all, but to achieve for themselves a freedom from the church and civil officials in England who had prevented them from pursuing their faith as they believed God wanted them to. The settlement of Massachusetts presented the colonists with their first opportunity to decide what views and actions were acceptable and to prohibit what was not.

Edited to add - in case this wasn't blunt enough, just like conservatives have been for my entire life; the freedom they want on any given axis is actually the freedom to control others on that same axis.

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There was a comedian that once said "remember, America is a country that was founded by people that were too uptight for England."

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't know if that was George Carlin, but it sounds like something he'd say.

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

As I'm a missionary of St George, i can positively say it was not.

It was late 90's or early 00's. Probably one of those old comedy central compilations. Guy was flamboyant, wearing something like a Hawaiian shirt. I'm reminded of, but I'm also pretty sure it was not Greg Proops. Similar style, though.

ETA: I was wrong. Greg Proops is a national treasure, and a prophet. "Couldn't you have worn a blazer..?"

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ironically, there's a good possibility I internalized the same clip at the same time leading to my comment above in the first place. 😆

Check my edit. It's the same routine with a different punchline.

[–] livejamie@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This thread is the only result for "remember, America is a country that was founded by people that were too uptight for England" on Google now