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For those who don't find "far-right" to be an applicable descriptor with what is known currently, I acknowledge that the meme creator could have been more precise with their word choice. However, I feel the difference is academic:

We can replace “far right” with the easily verified “not leftist” without changing the meme whatsoever, primarily because the meme is about Nancy Mace and her mercurial, disingenuous opinion, not (directly) about the shooter.

Edit - I modified it, though I still find it to be a distinction without a difference - alt version for those who prefer (whoops missed one first time)

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[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bring back? Do you currently not have the death penalty? That’s blowing my mind. I had no idea that was abolished in the US.

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

This is one of those weird right-wing talking points that can be easily disproved. I think this disingenuous discourse contributes to Fox News viewers' perception that crime in the US is out of control when it's actually at its lowest in decades in most cities.

The US does have capital punishment as a federal penalty, but it is not commonly used. There are particular "aggravating" factors to a federal murder charge that can make it eligible for the death penalty.

Capital sentences are far more likely punishments at the state level, and a little more than half of the states still use the death penalty.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anyone else finds the casing engraving situation to be a bit strange?

From a CNN article:

Officials who spoke during a news conference Friday did not address whether the inscriptions included references to trans people, but none of the writings they described appear to have any connection to that community. One law enforcement source told CNN that some of the markings instead appear to be a reference to video games.

Seems to me like they have no idea what they mean? Why have they not shared the actual engravings? They did that for the not-Luigi shooting, so I wonder what's different.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Anyone else finds the casing engraving situation to be a bit strange?

This is the best explanation I've seen (and I do think the engravings are shared out there somewhere)

I'm not steeped in internet culture enough to have known all this Groyper stuff before, though I'd heard the term. However, this has the ring of truth to me, and is consistent with other Groyper descriptions I've seen.

This is the explanation I'm seeing most often outside mainstream media where they are too busy running around trying to analyze it and speak truthfully about his life without getting fired.

More or less the same point but with more information here: https://www.tiktok.com/@aidanetcetera/video/7549640789652032790

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago
[–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's a groyper, who is arguing he's not far right ?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You know it's bad enough that we have Nazis again for some reason. But worst of all they are now super duper cringe. I bet actual Nazis refuse to hang out with them because they're so embarrassing.

Original nazis were pretty damn cringe too.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 63 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So when they finally caught the shooter, I exclaimed "oh thank god he's white" and did a fist pump.

Everyone in the office break room turned, looked at me, noted that I'm brown and then just nodded safely. A couple dudes smiled in solidarity.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago

Didn't we already know that from the released footage.

I suspected he would be right wing as well, after all they're the ones with all of the guns and both people who tried to assassinate trump were right wing, which is why the republicans immediately stopped to talking about them, and trump stopped wearing his stupid bed sheet of a bandage.

[–] duckCityComplex@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just when you think the US Congress could stoop no lower than Marjorie Taylor Greene, Nancy Mace steps up to the plate and hits it way out of the park.

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[–] nozone@sh.itjust.works 85 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Wasn't he a Mormon? Didn't he already find Jesus Christ? It didn't seem to make a difference at all...

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (10 children)

He doesn’t know the right Jesus. There are too many Jesus’s and everyone thinks their Jesus is the right one.

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[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 2 days ago (50 children)

Mormons aren't Christians, at least according to those Christians who hate Mormons. They might believe in Jesus Christ but they didn't find him. This might seem like a distinction without a difference but only because it is.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses and Scientology are all quite similar. They all have some modern founder (Smith / Russel / Hubbard) who has positioned themselves as a Abraham like figure within the religion. Someone who has been charged by god (or aliens) to write the scriptures.

They are all cults of personality, and a lot of American evangelical churches display similar traits. Charismatic preachers who become celebrities within the movement getting fame and power in the process. There seems to be something in the American psyche that gravitates to this kind of movement.

Christian or not - all of these are problems movements in my eyes.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago

Charismatic preachers who become celebrities within the movement getting fame and power in the process.

And wealth.

[–] bignate31@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

Christian Science as well. It's eerie how many overlaps they have with Mormons: founded by a single person (Mary Baker Eddystone), have a book they treat as scripture (Science and Health), believe they are the "one true way", and tell people to "pray to know if the book [and the religion] is true"

So eerie, in fact, that it was the final nail in the head (so to speak) that allowed me to leave Mormonism for good

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] klu9@piefed.social 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Took me longer than I care to admit 😅

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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 113 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (11 children)

Nice that they have so clearly broadcasted their double standards

It demonstrates that rational people should not attempt to compromise with these cultists and prioritise blocking and removal. They are not reliable or consistent.

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[–] RockBottom@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Moral high ground be damned, it works for them.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 day ago

I still haven't found a better analysis than this, so I feel pretty OK about what's posted, and the clarification I made, despite the occasional drive-by.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Is there some kind of “online discourse” about using the term far right instead of non left? That’s ridiculous.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think some people feel that it's overused. The trouble is that does seem to be how the world works now. You have the left wing politicians, and then you have the far right. Nobody seems to be just moderately right anymore.

So you see a lot of online comments that are accurately describing people as far right to this, and far right that, and it makes it look like the term is overused. But the truth is, the far right are just overly present.

[–] Hanrahan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

You have the left wing politicians

All 4 of them

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