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CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 100 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Yes.

But it’s already here. Education is already doing what you’re fearing. Rich people tend to have access to better education and thus having access to better salaries, positions, etc.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yep. Learned behavior is where human evolution actually happens; it's our specialization, our niche as big brained, highly social, linguistic apes. Don't gotta wait for random genetic changes that happen to encode useful new instincts. We just learn them from one another. Significantly speedier.

If rich people go mucking about with their genomes, it's much more likely to backfire in unforeseen ways than to actually instill any sort of advantage. Genes are a messy, messy, messy means of encoding things.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If rich people go mucking about with their genomes, it's much more likely to backfire in unforeseen ways

This really resonates with me. No person is that smart or has the level of foresight required to make those kinds of changes effectively (at very least in the long term).

From time to time i think of an author i had enjoyed years ago named Robert Anton Wilson. He was a warped sonofabitch, a Yund i can't really claim to fully understand his philosophy, but even just as recently as this past week i found myself thinking about a concept he'd discussed at length: the idea that when one is very young, there are "imprints" impressed on your brain that really determine how you think/act/are. He had written a series about attempting to erase ones imprints and replace them with more advantageous ones.

He had spent just as much time warning about the dangers of attempting to do such a thing though. As much as anybody may like to think they know what's best for themselves or anyone else, it's astounding now frequently we can be wrong due to lack of information, bad judgement, bias, etc.

The genetic decisions one may choose to make for their offspring may have little/no relevance by the time those offspring arrive. I feel like it could be so much worse though. I imagine this is more like tweaking assembly code, but on an even more complex system that we don't even fully understand yet. The most hubristic will convince themselves they know best, but i have to imagine reality will prove them wrong every time.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Gonna have to read those, thanks!

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Geez, i forgot the title of the series: The Cosmic Trigger. The guy is a nut but a very interesting writer with some out-there ideas.

[–] ileftreddit@piefed.social 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not just education, but what really matters- social connections. The wealthy only want to socialize with other wealthy people, so when their kids begin entering adulthood they’ll give them a leg up. Wealthy people control access to many high-paying jobs; the classic example is wall st, where unless you’re a rocket scientist your daddy has to know someone to get an internship.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago

Yes. People fight for the $50K to $100K jobs, missing the boat on the $250K jobs.

[–] Yezzey@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lets hope they dont weed out empathy.

[–] ileftreddit@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They already have. The few very rich friends I have (money is no object people) are all great at pretending to have empathy but their actions belie them

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Yep, they'll act like they care, think that they care, but put the mildest of obstacles in front of them and they'll throw a poor person into a meat grinder to avoid it. People who grew up with money have no character or idea how to weather any kind of hardship

[–] Yezzey@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

True but this will accelerate it i guess.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That's been SOP since... checks human history

Oh. Forever? Hunh.