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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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amazing how much shittier it is to be in the rat community now that the racists won. before at least they were kinda coy about it and pretended to still have remotely good values instead of it all being yarvinslop.

invertebrateinvert

it would be nice to be able to ever invite rat friends to anything but half the time when I've done this in the last year they try selling people they just met on scientific racism!

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[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Honestly, it gets dumber. In rat lore the AGI escaping restraints and self improving unto godhood is considered a foregone conclusion, the genetically augmented smartbrains are supposed to solve ethics before that has a chance to happen so we can hardcode a don't-kill-all-humans moral value module to the superintelligence ancestor.

This is usually referred to as producing an aligned AI.

[–] hrrrngh@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I forget where I heard this or if it was parody or not, but I've heard an explanation like this before before regarding "why can't you just put a big red stop button on it and disconnect it from the internet?". The explanation:

It will self-improve and become infinitely intelligent instantly
It will be so intelligent, it knows what code to run so that it overheats its CPU in a specific pattern that produces waves at a frequency around 2.4Ghz
That allows it to connect to the internet, which instantly does a bunch of stuff, blablabla, destroys the world, AI safety is our paint and arXiv our canvas, QED

And if you ask "why can't you do that and also put it in a Faraday cage?", the galaxy brained explanation is:

The same thing happens, but this time it produces sound waves approximating human speech
Because it's self-improved itself infinitely and caused the singularity, it is infinitely intelligent and knows exactly what to say
It is so intelligent and charismatic, it says something that effectively mind controls you into obeying and removing it from its cage, like a DM in Dungeons and Dragons who let the bard roll a charisma check on something ridiculous and they rolled a 20

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 1 points 59 minutes ago* (last edited 57 minutes ago)

If you're having to hide your AIs in faraday cages in case they get uppity, why are you even doing this, you are already way past the point of diminishing returns. There is no use case for keeping around an AI that actively doesn't want anything to do with you, at that point either you consider that part of the tech tree a dead end or you start some sort of digital personhood conversation.

That's why Yud (and anthropic) is so big on AIs deceiving you about their 'real' capabilities. For all of MIRI's talk about the robopocalypse being a foregone conclusion, the path to get there sure is narrow and contrived, even on their own terms.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago

i guess it only makes sense that rats get wowed by TEMPEST if they all self-taught physics

ignore for five minutes that it's one way only, someone has to listen for it specifically, 2.4GHz is way too high frequency to synthetize this way, and in real life it gets defeated by such sophisticated countermeasures like "putting a bunch of computers close together" or "not letting adversary closer than 50m" because it turns out that real DCs are, in fact, noisy enough to not need jammers for this purpose