How can a poll get an accurate answer if everyone is paranoid they will be killed unless they all say the same thing? Do you think the polls of North Koreans are accurate? Yeah, 100% of North Koreans SAY they love their government, but that isn't actually true.

There is no way to detect lying. That is the consensus of every expert on lying in the world. We have never been able to trick people into revealing inner thoughts they didn't want to, not for thousands of years. Not with all the drugs and torture by intelligence agencies for decades, not with lie detectors. In fact what you linked admits there are limitations, because asking ANY question about the war scares Russians and makes them think it is a government entity spying on them. Also, the survey was done online, where Russia psyops dominate, and could partially be a measure of online bots.

I doubt you know any Ukrainians, because they are literally working with Russian rebels and they understand this as well. Russians not being able to communiate for fear of death by their government supports my points.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I told you you that we are not going to create a Nobel in sociology just for you. Just because you think "There is no way to detect lying" doesn't make it true. The methodology is clearly explained in the first article I cited, list experiments don't involved asking question you lazy ignoramus.

I live in Ukraine. I am originally from Donbas. You don't know jack shit about russia, Ukraine or the war.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Also, sure, Jan, you totally live in Ukraine and are just happening to mention it now, so that you can justify your advocacy of genocide.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

What about the big drinking problem that most Russians have. How does that factor into it?

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What SPECIFICALLY do you want done to the Russian people to make them suffer via violence - your words - be specific. List the actions, coward. And then we can discuss if those fall into torture or mass killing categories.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

i dont want anyone to suffer. Peace and love to all.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Lol substance use is a medical condition, don't be ableist.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

Seriously, do you think the fact that 90% of Russian men are drunkards affects their world view and makes them more prone to violence?

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world -2 points 5 days ago

What SPECIFICALLY do you want done to the Russian people to make them suffer via violence - your words - be specific. List the actions. And then we can discuss if those fall into torture or mass killing categories.

I read that article and again, anything mentioning the war will always get that response from Russians because they fear government crackdown. But I accept we disagree here, fine.

So: What SPECIFICALLY do you want done to the Russian people to make them suffer via violence - your words - be specific. List the actions. And then we can discuss if those fall into torture or mass killing categories.