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cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/45277582

Opening my weather app this morning I was greeted by this warning:

Google has announced that, starting in 2026/2027, all apps on certified Android devices will require the developer to submit personal identity details directly to Google. Since the developers of this app do not agree to this requirement, this app will no longer work on certified Android devices after that time.

It's the first time I hear about this, seems to be about:

Tech crunch article from august, "google will require developer verification for android apps outside the play store"

Cirrus app: Github

Was this a big thing I somehow missed? I hope more devs will follow suit.

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[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 105 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Can't have shit in a closed system. Fuck google.

Linux on phones needs to become a thing. If they start locking down like apple does I will literally go back to a dumb phone.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Degoogled android ROMs will not have this restriction, as they will just have googles verification system removed. So until linux for mobile is a bit more ready you can still use graphene/lineage/etc.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So long as you can still have GrapheneOS and others. Google's handling of pushing updates and device tree shows how fragile that actually is. Linux phone is going to be the best solution so long as Google runs Android

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Aparrently they are trying to close the Sharing off android.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They can't actually do that as vendors build off of the sources.

Luckily we have other vendors like Motorola who are very supportive of custom roms

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Idk if I'd call it "very supportive", Motorola voids your warranty to install custom ROMs.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are there any companies that don't?

Anyway I've never had to use the warranty plus my most current phone is a eBay refurbished device

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 2 points 1 day ago

Google and Fairphone don't. I can't imagine Shift does either being a German company.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Very supportative" like making you wait 7 days before the option in dev settings become un-greyed lol (serious wtf, I was just about to install Lineage and learned about this bullshit, welp, guess I have to wait till next week)

It really sucks but at least the unlock process is simple and reliable.

Much better than Samsung and other companies

Yes they are. And it's bleak.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

The issue with that is that fewer and fewer phones have unlockable bootloaders.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I'd stay way from Graphene but Lineage OS is solid

[–] blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Does your opinion come with a reason?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Louis Rossman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4To-F6W1NT0

Techlore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx7CZ-2Bajg

TL;DR: The Graphene devs are crazy. I wouldn't trust them personally. If they were making something lower risk like a text editor I wouldn't be a concerned but I take my phone seriously.

Thx for the context.

Why stay away from Graphene?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago

Linux on phones no where near as private or usable

Android (AOSP) is really solid as a platform. Even with Google trying to turn it into a proprietary hellscape projects like Lineage OS still work to build a open platform

[–] hobwell@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Not an endorsement, but I just found out about the existence of this phone today: FLX1 which purports to be based on Debian.