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Interesting how this seems to happen every single time there's a large gathering of Republicans.

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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 39 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Are these correlations actually indicative of mass closeted homosexuality in the maga Christian sect? It’s fun to believe that’s what it is but I have met a LOT of maga/far right homophobe types and it seems like a stretch to believe that a significant number of these people are secretly gay.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 83 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Lots of homophobes are closeted, self-loathing gays.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I mean sure, sometimes I feel like that narrative is blown out of proportion. But maybe I’m wrong. It’s more fun to think that’s how it is though, for sure.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And yet, so often, the loudest anti-LGBTQ voices turn out to be gay, and the loudest protect the children voices turn out to be kiddie diddlers or CSAM producers or hoarders. Often, where there is smoke there is fire and Republicans do a lot of smoking.

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Smoking poles.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you are confident with your sexuality, why would it bother you what others do? It is not like it can switch who you are attracted to.

The only exception I see are the people who got convinced that gays can influence that their kids will be gays. That's a bit harder to convince it is a bullshit.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

convinced that gays can influence that their kids will be gays

if that's how it works, then just influence your kid to be straight again, "problem" solved.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You don't understand: teh gays are just cooler than straight people, so the kids are powerless against their 'rizz,' and boring straights can't hope to compete.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 5 points 1 day ago

That’s so funny, I’ve never heard it put like that but that’s exactly what a lot of them think.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is especially crazy thinking in places where being gay is hell (in some especially bad ones even punishable by death). If it was a choice, why would someone willingly choose that, when being straight is so much easier.

[–] subignition@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago

That IS how some people think it works, which is why conversion therapy gets pushed. I appreciate that you were joking but it would be lost on anyone you're actually talking about.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, your logic follows. Maybe I’m wrong.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

How else can you explain the phenomenon in the headline? It's genuinely not the first time a large GOP event crashed grindr.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Every time my mom is transphobic, she says something that makes you think 🥚. Last time was talking about how bad female fat distribution is and how she'd like to take T.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Female fat distribution is much healthier than male fat distribution. There are a few reasons why women live longer on average, and this is one of them.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I wouldn't care if its less healthy. I don't that matters enough to even factor into the question.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

That's all fine. It was a random fact, I didn't mean much by it.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Self-loathing bisexuals.

"If I can choose not to be gay, so can you."

[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes, yes they are. Through a friend I know a few trans and gay sex workers, and they make a killing every year at the RNC.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago

They should look into how much they could make through blackmail

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Interesting. I have no context for that, but that doesn’t mean you’re wrong or that I don’t think your claim is credible by any means. It’s entirely possible that I’m wrong and the closeted gay Republican is as large and ridiculous of an issue as it appears to be.

It's a story that pops up every time the RNC gathers. Here's one from 2016, and another from 2024. It's definitely not just some unsubstantiated rumor.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

No, a lot of them really are, it isn't complicated.

Repress sexuality, sexual expression, codify a rigid set of norms around it?

It thus becomes fetishized, and this must also be a secret, because you essentially lose all your face, your social status, respectability, as s conservative, if you are outed.

We think it is ridiculous they are hypocrites.

They all know they are in the company of hypocrites, what they do not like is the tearing of the veil, the decomposition of the masquerade.

If it needs to be stated: I grew up in this culture and had to actively flee from it.

EDIT:

Also, this is why conservatives associate trans people and homosexuals with pedophilia.

To them, it all falls into one bucket of forbidden faux pas. It is all heresy, it is all sin, all perversion, differentiation is largely unimportant, in fact even attempting to make the differentiation explicit is often viewed as a sin.

Of course, again, this makes all of this into secret fetishes, which the power hierarchy of their culture will nearly always orient itself in such a manner to protect the power structure itself, very often by supressing reporting or punishment for say, being an active pedophile or rapist, be this in the context of a family, or a wholr chuch body, whatever.

Its all there when you look under the curtains, but their whole thing is worshipping the curtains, the conformity.

Psychosexuality is the root of almost all politics, prove me wrong lol.

[–] kingofthezyx@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's like the old joke - what does one Mormon say to the other in the liquor store? Absolutely NOTHING.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

LOL omg, I managed to not grow up Mormon but I certainly knew many of them, holy shit thats amazing, ahahahah!

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago

Nah, you’re right.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry to be the one ruining the fun. The graph is from down detector. A website where people "report" than a site or service is down.

I'm pretty sure at this point people just report grindr being down in any republican reunion just for giggles. During Eurovision and other promient gay friendly events that grindr is put under great stress haven't go down in my experience. I doubt a dude funerals is going to make it.

That doesn't take from a lot of republicans being closeted gay. But I'm almost certain on the troll factor being big here.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah. It’s honestly probably a little bit of that, a little bit that the closeted gay Republican theory holds water, and a little bit of the loghouse republicans in there.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It's literally just a massive event causing infrastructure problems. You'd see the same downtime for other similar services at the same time. I don't know why this meme keeps coming up.

It's like saying I couldn't charge my vibrating anal sex toy because my power went out. The Republicans at the convention must be all charging their own vibrating anal sex toys and taking all the power.

Its also kinda homophobic in the "the gays are self hating" kind of way. Yes. There are closeted gay Republicans. But it's not a meaningful number to matter.

These memes just make liberals look dumb for not understanding how infrastructure works. Fuck Charlie Kirk and the Republicans. But this shit is just dumb.

Servers are not some independent resource. Heavy pressure on internet infrastructure will cause downtime or latency issues on servers even if they aren't the ones being used directly.

Some services will work better than others as they are designed to handle spikes. Grindr likely doesn't invest in that as it doesn't profit them to do so. The opportunity cost aren't worth it. Uber on the other hand would as spike pricing benefits them heavily. So they likely have server allocation to handle high demand (which takes resources from other services even more).

TLDR: Internet infrastructure is complicated and it's not some directly allocated resource. Grindr having outages does not directly mean that Grindr is the application with high demand.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You went on a very long and winding road to defend your assumption that republicans don't have a significant closeted bi component, which is the obvious and correct conclusion from the data. Why wouldn't Republicans be closeted bi people? Is being a nasty hater really specifically a straight thing? Are all bi people sweetness and light?

Imagine you were brought up to hate yourself for wanting sex with men and learned that the "right" thing to do is "choose" to suppress it? Wouldn't you be jealous of or angry with men who broke the rules and were out and facing no consequences, when you've had to deal with so much shit?

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 1 points 26 minutes ago

You're trying to project a likely true statement onto data that does not mean what you think it means.

It's why all of the replies I've had have been about closeted gay/bi people in the Republican party and have addressed nothing about the main point of my comment: internet infrastructure.

I never denied anything you're saying here. I mostly agree with it. But I'm autistic and have to explain why this outage map is meaningless. It's a perfect example of correlation not meaning causation.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah that’s part of what bothers me about this rhetoric. It does seem vaguely homophobic.