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Guess I won't be eating food any more
For a lot of people the most radical thing they can do is tear up their lawn and grow a garden.
And I'd honestly love to have the necessary time and energy in order to do that.
I'm gonna need something a bit more specific than Costco, Sam's Club, Kroger, Walmart, and Target. Are you saying ALL products in those stores are from slave labor? Most? Some? A few obscure items?
I don't really have any other options for groceries where I live.
That's a good question for OP
Nearly everything you eat or own is made by slaves. How many logic hurdles must one perform?
Now is a very good time to become a subsistence farmer.
Because that's totally something most people have access to and can do.
Gonna start substinence farming inside my apartment deep in the concrete jungle of the inner city, yup.
The world has changed deeply since the era where that was a way out of this. The majority of US citizens literally do not have access to arable land.
Should have added /s.
let's not coddle the media illiterate
Sarcasm and irony on the Internet are dead though. We live in post-sane times, i cannot ever assume the other person is not completely serious about the utterly deranged and/or idiotic shit they write or say.
I must always assume that yes, that person is in fact as stupid as they seem until proven otherwise/indicated by an /s.
that really sounds like a you problem, bud. good luck out there lol
Are you trying to prove my point?
yeah, everything is about you! exactly! that's why it makes more sense to expect sarcasm indicators than to learn how to see it in the wild because most people won't use them.
Sometimes it isn't even media literacy. I've known several nuero divergent people over the years who can have a hard time understanding sarcasm in person unless the person being sarcastic is really over doing it. They have no chance differentiating sarcastic and serious if it's written.
Honestly, as an old tyme closet grower, with about $300-400 in led lighting and a closet or small area that you could put a blackout grow enclosure, you could work 2-4 hydroponic buckets and get a shit load of tomatoes, and probably a few other fruit/vegetable strains.
$300-400 buys me enough groceries for a half year. A few tomatoes don't give me enough calories to survive even close to a half year. And don't even get me started on the electricity cost of attempting this in Germany.
It's not an option for everyone
Fuck sake, $300 buys me enough groceries for around two months if I'm lucky
sounds of audible American despair
Lol idk what he's doing to survive on $300-400 for half a year, I doubt Germany is that cheap. If I cook a decent meal once per day and get some sandwich material for breakfast, that's still gonna add up to like $200 a month for me.
Now if you cook potatoes and/or pasta and/or rice without any sauce, condiments, protein, etc... You could probably go half a year on $300-400. But you WILL hate yourself at the end of week 1 and also be severely lacking protein lol
Indoor vertical farming is quite efficient.
Get a tent and a light, there’s no need for attitude because you can’t think up already available solutions.
The power requirements are astronomical, let alone the initial investment and upkeep.
My yard is 80' x 200'. I might be able to feed my wife and I off that, no more. We'd be near starving, and likely would in the years it would take to work it out anything more than corn or potatoes. I have 2.5 acres of swamp in NW Florida. Can't grow shit there.
There's a swamp down the road. I'd struggle to bring home a meaningful amount of fish. The creek that pours of it runs behind our house. About zero fish. I'd burn more calories trying to catch one than I'd gain.
Sometimes I could shoot a deer! But, as with the fish, when everyone's hungry, nothing with fur would be left after a month.
SOURCE: Been growing plants for 35 years.
I've read a few accounts of people who've attempted to become completely self-sufficient. Even those with lots of land who spend all their time farming/fishing/hunting find that it's pretty much impossible these days. If you did achieve self-sufficiency at some point, you'd likely only be one failed crop from starving most of the time.
Which is basically synonymous with subsistence farming, absent community or govt support. Lots of commenters who have obviously never needed to grow food to survive. Trust me, it is deeply unglamorous and insecure and always has been.
Good thing I don't already need to spend all my time working
I like CSAs. All I really need to buy from stores is stuff like protein and grains. There are local CSAs in my area that even offer meat, eggs, and milk.
There's one just down the street from me! A day's worth of food is about $100 there. So, uh.
Hmm. Yeah, my local farmer's markets are expensive, but the CSA subscriptions are reasonable (i.e. the ones where you pay upfront for the season's produce, reducing the farmer's risk, then get a box of produce every week). Some, you can volunteer on the farm to get "free" food.
All the subscriptions I've looked at are significantly costlier than grocery stores, on the same order as the ship I mentioned. I get the impression that they're trying to just tybdercut restaurant prices, as if their target market is people who would otherwise eat out every meal. Maybe I'm just not finding the right ones, but what I can budget for is restaurant supply and warehouse prices.
Most of my local ones are registered on https://www.localharvest.org/ (their map seems to be messed up right now, but seems to work if you type in a zipcode, select CSA from the dropdown, and press "GO"). They are more expensive than groceries stores, but don't use heavily exploited labor, and you often get a lot of weird/cool stuff normal grocery stores don't sell.
It's just part of living in a corporate hellscape.
Thanks, I hate it
Your parents literally dont care what you think about the life they gave you. They got their dopamine, and they don't give a shit.
Sorry about your childhood
I mean this is a very odd place for this comment, though I agree with the general sentiment and is why I won’t be having kids