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And wow, Trump is so much better than Harris would have been for Gaza!
Gaza was a stupid cause to get hung up on, I am not saying it isn't important, it is extremely important, but letting the cheeto win just to spite Harris for not supporting Gaza enough was stupid
Oh, I am with you, friend. Unfortunately, being on the same side as him, just "not as bad", definitely didn't do her campaign any favors. Especially among low information voters, who are really just taking everyone at their word. While Trump was boldly asserting himself as anti-war, Harris was just giving vague, wishy-washy answers, that relied on far too much nuance. American voters don't like to think that hard.
If you truly believe "Gaza was a stupid cause to get hung up on" then what's your justification for her continued support of the genocide occurring there?
You act like people are stupid for making a big deal about it, while failing to give a reason why she felt it was a big enough deal to support even if it meant letting Trump win the presidency yet again.
Palestine has been a bipartisan bad take for the US the whole time. Any single issue is a bad issue to get hung up on. "Lines in the sand" are a fragmentary psy-op to get you to ignore the big picture.
Yes, every big deal is a big deal, but there are hundreds of big deals. Taking a stance on this one didn't make it any better, arguably made it worse, and also let a whole lot of other big deals get bigger.
Single-issue voting is how we got in this mess in the first place. We aren't going to single-issue vote our way out of it.
There's a difference between intentionally torpedoing peace talks and outright arming and funding a genocide against a civilian population.
Democrats have been shitty for the country for a long time, but now the mask is off and people are seeing through the virtue signaling, false promises, and outright lies. This may be a single issue, but its the straw that broke the camel's back for a lot of people and it's one issue in a sea of issues the Democrats are on the wrong side of.
We didnt get into this mess by voting on single issues. We got into it by continually electing people who are using their positions for personal gain and the gain of their wealthy donors above all else. That's the bipartisan issue. Both parties work for the same people and it isn't us. The political fights broadcast on TV and social media are just a smoke screen to make people believe we have two opposing parties, but it turns out the real opposing parties are the American people and the wealthy.
Single issues are exactly how those people manipulate your vote.
None, but with her the US would not be destroying itself as quickly, and USAID would still be a functional agency.
I try to be a realist, and looking at Trumps regime, I don't see Harris causing more harm in total.
You make statements like "with her the US would not be destroying itself as quickly" and wonder why she didn't win the election?
You don't see the irony in saying "you must vote for either the slow destruction or the fast destruction of the country because if you don't, you're supporting the destruction of the country." How about people take their partisan blinders off already and see that limiting yourself to these two choices is what's destroying the country.
I don't wonder why she didn't win, the US citizens had two alternatives.
The US citizens picked the lunatic.
Way to quickly back track and deflect from your last comment.
I also find it funny that everyone defending Harris and the DNC for running a train wreck of a campaign and handing the country over to Trump eventually comes around to admitting they don't even live in the US despite their strong opinions and insight into US politics.
And then scream that anyone who isn't pro-genocide is an evil foreigner for disagreeing with netanyahu.
You realists sure do tend to lose elections. But hey, maybe you'll get enough republican votes to win next time, eh?
First the Republican party would need to establish itself here in Sweden, then you would need to kill me, steal my identity and vote for them in my name, that is the ONLY way they will ever get my vote
They should invent some kind of an intermediary layer between the voters and the elections to ensure that demagoguery and sensationalism cannot prevail. That would fix everything.
/s for the kids who skipped civics
I agree on the sarcasm of it not working one bit, but that layer should also have been completely irrelevant, the real problem is that Trump is a sociopathic criminal that was never arrested for his crimes. Not even when he attempted a coup.
A fucking traitor, who was allowed to run again, despite it was clearly illegal, and he should have been in prison.
Seen from Europe the problem is not just that Trump was elected, it's the complete failure throughout American society to stop him.
The judicial failed, congress failed, and the people failed.
Also the democratic process within the Republican party failed, where they have turned away completely from traditional Republican, American and democratic values. AND we saw similar problems in the democratic party with Biden not stepping down as promised, and back when Bernie was running.
Problem is that the entire system AND the majority of the population are toxic, and Trump is allowed to act way outside the scope of his presidential powers, and clearly contrary to the constitution without being stopped.
The roundup of immigrants and detainment without seeing a judge, and being sent to prison in foreign countries alone, is violation of the constitution on 3 counts. Yet it is allowed to continue!?!?!
Hundy p. Aside from the sanity-thin norms holding back the American empire from pure naked tyranny, the whole thing was built on slaves and stolen land, and still is through the 13th amendment.
I was one of the kids who was raised to an ideal of inclusivity and egalitarianism that has never existed in the real America. I left, and now find myself an immigrant from a place that doesn't seem to exist. Sometimes I feel like a cryptid or something.
Absolutely true, but in the 70's at least there was hope, things seemed to generally move in the right direction more often than not.
Then it slowed down with Reagan, and with Trump it has all gone to shit.
All countries have problems with racism, but no other democracy has as big a social and cultural debt as USA.
You mean the electoral college? It would probably have worked if we hadn't broken it by choosing electors by popular vote instead of having them appointed by state legislatures.
Maybe. Hard to say what would have worked at this point, without sounding like we were caught by Scooby Doo. "It would have worked too, if it weren't for you meddling oligarchs!" Rome tried reforms too, but it was too late.
Genocide is NOT a stupid cause to get hung up on. It is literally the worst crime that can be committed.
More than 90% of Democrats believe that there's a genocide happening, and they want it to stop.
Politicians are supposed to LEAD their constituents, not follow. Kamala has no North Star, so she was doomed from the start.
The best thing she could have done was take Walz's lead, but the donor class swiftly shut that shit down.
You tell me if we have a functioning democracy
Considering that in the US' two party system, you can have a winner who lost the popular vote, I'd say that the US is a deeply flawed democracy.
Any democratic system that includes first past the post is a flawed system
What makes you think she would be any different from Trump on Palestine? Everything Trump is doing right now is a continuation of the Biden-Harris policy of letting Israel commit genocide with absolutely no pushback.
That is EXACTLY my point!
She probably wouldn't be any different, but she would be remarkably different on US policies, immigration, trans care, USAID.
People who refused to vote for Harris, you forgot about the biggest fact in politics, you never vote for the best candidate, you vote for the lest bad candidate.
No one will be able to convince me that Harris wasn't the least bad candidate between her and Trump.