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[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If you truly believe "Gaza was a stupid cause to get hung up on" then what's your justification for her continued support of the genocide occurring there?

You act like people are stupid for making a big deal about it, while failing to give a reason why she felt it was a big enough deal to support even if it meant letting Trump win the presidency yet again.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Palestine has been a bipartisan bad take for the US the whole time. Any single issue is a bad issue to get hung up on. "Lines in the sand" are a fragmentary psy-op to get you to ignore the big picture.

Yes, every big deal is a big deal, but there are hundreds of big deals. Taking a stance on this one didn't make it any better, arguably made it worse, and also let a whole lot of other big deals get bigger.

Single-issue voting is how we got in this mess in the first place. We aren't going to single-issue vote our way out of it.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There's a difference between intentionally torpedoing peace talks and outright arming and funding a genocide against a civilian population.

Democrats have been shitty for the country for a long time, but now the mask is off and people are seeing through the virtue signaling, false promises, and outright lies. This may be a single issue, but its the straw that broke the camel's back for a lot of people and it's one issue in a sea of issues the Democrats are on the wrong side of.

We didnt get into this mess by voting on single issues. We got into it by continually electing people who are using their positions for personal gain and the gain of their wealthy donors above all else. That's the bipartisan issue. Both parties work for the same people and it isn't us. The political fights broadcast on TV and social media are just a smoke screen to make people believe we have two opposing parties, but it turns out the real opposing parties are the American people and the wealthy.

We didnt get into this mess by voting on single issues. We got into it by continually electing people who are using their positions for personal gain and the gain of their wealthy donors above all else.

Single issues are exactly how those people manipulate your vote.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

None, but with her the US would not be destroying itself as quickly, and USAID would still be a functional agency.

I try to be a realist, and looking at Trumps regime, I don't see Harris causing more harm in total.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You make statements like "with her the US would not be destroying itself as quickly" and wonder why she didn't win the election?

You don't see the irony in saying "you must vote for either the slow destruction or the fast destruction of the country because if you don't, you're supporting the destruction of the country." How about people take their partisan blinders off already and see that limiting yourself to these two choices is what's destroying the country.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't wonder why she didn't win, the US citizens had two alternatives.

  1. An educated, experienced, boring politician.
  2. An unhinged lunatic.

The US citizens picked the lunatic.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Way to quickly back track and deflect from your last comment.

I also find it funny that everyone defending Harris and the DNC for running a train wreck of a campaign and handing the country over to Trump eventually comes around to admitting they don't even live in the US despite their strong opinions and insight into US politics.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

And then scream that anyone who isn't pro-genocide is an evil foreigner for disagreeing with netanyahu.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I try to be a realist

You realists sure do tend to lose elections. But hey, maybe you'll get enough republican votes to win next time, eh?

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

First the Republican party would need to establish itself here in Sweden, then you would need to kill me, steal my identity and vote for them in my name, that is the ONLY way they will ever get my vote