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Thoughts on preemptively banning Gen-AI? (ttrpg.network)

submitted 4 days ago by sirblastalot@ttrpg.network to c/rpg@ttrpg.network

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I've been reading about the user revolt on the Twin Peaks subreddit calling for a ban on AI art. As best I can tell we don't really have people posting AI stuff here yet, but I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to ban it before it becomes a problem. I'm soliciting feedback from y'all on this, please let me know what you prefer.

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[–] riskable@programming.dev 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Just be careful with your definition. Here's some things that are "generative AI":

Speech recognition
Zillions of AI tools in photo editors (e.g. "remove background" or tools that let you mask subjects). Yes, all generative AI.
All sorts of title/logo generators.
Upscaling tools.

Think about the reason why you want to ban generative AI: Is it because it sucks? Or because you have something against training AI models with images posted publicly to the Internet? Is it the environmental impact of data centers?

Be clear in your ban statement as to your reasoning so it doesn't seem arbitrary and capricious.

[–] kichae@wanderingadventure.party 9 points 4 days ago

> Speech recognition

Isn't generative, by standard usage of the term.

>(e.g. “remove background” or tools that let you mask subjects). Yes, all generative AI.

They are not. Not everything leverages a SVM or even a neural network is "generative AI". That's a disingenuous conflation of terms and technology.

> All sorts of title/logo generators.

So?

> Upscaling tools.

Are't "generative" in the context used here.

Generally speaking, sufficiently vague and plastic rules that are able to allow for things like "context" and don't provide wiggle room for "insufferable bad-faith assholes" are best employed for things like this.

[–] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

All of those were around prior to generative AI. You're thinking of other types of AI like machine learning.

That's not to say companies aren't now using generative AI for these things, but as we've seen the implementations are often worse then their machine learning counterparts (See YouTube AI captions).

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You're thinking of other types of AI like machine learning.

That’s all generative AI is. Machine learning applied to tasks like image generation and text generation. It’s all the same stuff. The difference between something that detects parts of an image and something that generates parts of an image is in application.

Edit: Why am I getting downvoted? I’m not making any value statements about generative AI here.