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there is a security risk so no
Please describe the nature of this risk, and explain why I don't have any of them?
No OS is safe, because within millions of lines of code, it is bound to have some vulnerabilities that can be exploited.
But what is absolutely unsafe, is an unsupported OS, where the vulnerabilities that are found are not solved/patched
I agree, all I ask is you show me one in Windows 7. Send me a URL that when I click it my bank account is emptied immediately.
All these threats people see are always something you actively install or are involved in, or some sort of social engineering scam. Even Windows 17 can't help you with that.
I don't know specific vulnarabilities but they either exist already or can be discovered at any moment without being patched. Not installing stuff yourself doesn't make you safe, just less unsafe.
I'm perfectly safe, and as usual, all I ask is evidence, not scare-mongering. Are you saying that if I stay with Win7, Russians will transmit themselves under my bed through my ISP?
Give me an example of a "less safe" website or application on Windows 7.
Classic anti vaxer logic
Impressive. That much stupid in such a compact and misspelled sentence.
Well, it's still a question that needs answering. I've been running Windows 7 non-stop for years. The only reason it crashes is because the hardware is failing. Computing isn't as complex as biology, for example, a program running on my laptop doesn't reproduce and evolve and then send out floppy discs into the atmosphere where other computers breathe it in.
It's still relatively simple and deterministic. So, show me a URL that I can click on that will demonstrate all these threats I keep hearing about. Show me a link explaining these "vulnerabilities" that doesn't end in "the user needs to install and run the malware in the browser."
You guys are so certain it's everywhere, should be easy. Which part of TCP/IP is sending me code that Windows 7 will then execute?
Waiting! Or maybe you've made this your entire identity and feel threatened by a simple question? You should be happy to hack my poor old Windows 7 with a simple URL?
Yeah. Sure, ley me dig up my stash of ilegal viruses. Oh wait. I dontkeep one.
I am telling you, as a software developer, software has bugs, security bugs, and once they are out, OSs push security updates. Can that update introduce new ones? Of course! But at least it take time to be found. The other vulnerability is already found and exploited.
Nobody is claiming that there is a 0-click virus to wreck everything. But there are way more viruses for win 7 than for up to date win 11, because companies keep outdated windows and the vulnerabilities already exist.
How out of date are you? You mighe be vulnerable to eternal blue, which would be hilarious.
Computers get herd immunity too. Virus do spread. The fact that everyone around you runs up to date things, keeps you safe
That's right. As long as I don't actively download things and run them blindly, I'll be fine. My herd immunity consists of adblockers, hosts file, and a managed router.
The only thing that will change the equation is when, inevitably, my little refurbished bargain 15 year old laptop will finally crash too often and become tiresome to use, and/or software I want to use forces win 11 for no reason. An example is KiCad, an electronics schematic and PCB design suite that does nothing fundamentally different than OrCAD did on a 386 40 years ago. Why it forces you to use Win 11 now is utterly mind-boggling to me, but I also grow tired of constantly having to find ways around artificial constraints.
And I wouldn't mind a new monitor too.
That is not herd immunity
Yes, thank you, I am telling you it doesn't matter.