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Expecting heavy industry greenwashing of this (slrpnk.net)

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[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

A small point Re the EU average, you're including a bunch of countries that don't have as much wind power as the UK, and there's a world of difference between peak CO2 for peak electricity at teatime and early evening and CO2 for charging the car overnight when the electricity is cheapest exactly because it's greenest and there's so much wind power overnight (in the UK).

From your Forbes article:

Good news: amortizing the carbon cost over the decades-long lifespan of the equipment, Bernstein determined that wind power has a carbon footprint 99% less than coal-fired power plants, 98% less than natural gas, and a surprise 75% less than solar.

So I don't see how the carbon cost of generating that electricity can be so much higher than the carbon cost of petrol which is surely even higher than natural gas which doesn't require refineries, when it's actually about 2% as much over the lifetime of the equipment.

Like I said, graph is screwy. Someone in the fossil fuel industry doesn't want you to think that electric is greener. It's a lie. It's FUD. Stop parroting it.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

your first paragraph makes no sense. yes the eu includes more countries than the uk. it's a connected market.

these stats are by polestar and rivian, as it says in the thing. if you have better sources, give them to me.

check my followup post.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it’s a connected market.

The UK isn't even in the EU, and different countries certainly have different energy mixes anyway.

if you have better sources, give them to me.

I literally quoted your own sources! I followed the links and I read them. Didn't you? I quoted them back to you. What a weird comment.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 1 day ago

The UK isn’t even in the EU, and different countries certainly have different energy mixes anyway.

there's a huge mass of cables connecting the uk to the eu. energy you use is never "from" a single source, it's from wherever it's generated, which means it's from the eu grid. i don't even know why the uk is in this conversation?

I literally quoted your own sources! I followed the links and I read them. Didn’t you? I quoted them back to you. What a weird comment.

i did. i used the actual numbers presented by the sources though, rather than the predictions.