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Trump’s Office of Management and Budget under Russell Vought has moved with more executive authority over spending, which is typically left to Congress. The administration took steps to cancel foreign aid and asserted power to withhold billions of domestic spending.

“I would expect this shutdown to look different than any other shutdown,” said Joshua Sewell, Taxpayers for Common Sense director of research and policy. He said he expects that the Trump team’s actions would be guided by what they believe achieves the most for them politically.

Trump could use a shutdown to dismantle government functions, wrote Max Stier, chief of executive of the Partnership for Public Service, a nonprofit focused on improving the federal government.

If lawmakers can’t reach a deal, Stier wrote, Trump and Vought “will have enormous latitude to determine which services, programs, and employees can be sidelined, decisions that could go far beyond what has occurred during past shutdowns.”

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[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 37 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

"Trump could use a shutdown to dismantle government functions" He already did that. We had this discussion already the last time, before Schumer and the rest folded. Then he did more of it after they folded. Why is this being trotted out as a threat again?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Because it's the excuse for not using the filibuster they refused to get rid of for the last two congressional majorities on the grounds that they need it to block republicans when democrats are in the minority.

To get low info voters to think keeping the gov open is a good idea.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

Exactly.

The awful shit is going to be awful either way, but one way is democrats helping them be awful.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 17 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They are already laying people off and have been for the whole time.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but it's still important people know about this memo before they lay all these people off. Schumer still seems to be going through with it:

“This is nothing new and has nothing to do with funding the government,” he said. “These unnecessary firings will either be overturned in court or the administration will end up hiring the workers back, just like they did as recently as today.”

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

Maybe I am misinformed but what’s the difference if a shutdown happens or not for people being laid off?

A RIF is not the same as a furlough and he could ask at any time for those jobs to be cut and he ether does have the authority to fire those people or he doesn’t but the shutdown doesn’t really have any effect on that