What Happened?
Jordan has been abusing his position as a moderator and, likely, as a community team member for months. Plenty of people have made posts about it. I made one myself which detailed a bunch of the things that he did.. However, do note that this is a reupload of the text of that post. To look at the comments, you'd have to click this link. All my comments and the post itself are deleted. Why? Explained at the bottom. Two admins from Lemmy.world replied to that post and detailed that they both did not want Jordan as the face of Lemmy.world as well as saying two things
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They had been in talks for days prior to my post about Jordans behavior
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That they had warned Jordan in the past about one particular behavior involving misinformation about a user and Canadian political terms.
In that post, Jordan came to his own defense. During that, he stipulated that he did nothing wrong with the misinformation situation. In doing so he demonstrated either that the admins never did warn him or that he did not internalize/care about the warning and rejected it out of hand. He was doubling down on the same behavior and justifying it.
In the same post, MrKaplan (one of the LW Admins) said that they were in talks about Jordan but nothing was said publicly. After about a week, I left and moved over to dbzero while leaving my LW account up to direct towards dbzer0. I made a goodbye to LW post as well as updating the YPTB post.
Not long after I made that, a post was made to the Lemmy.world announcements community saying that the admins were aware of Jordans behavior and were discussing it as well as giving some truly handwavy, handwringy justifications that made little to no sense as to why they couldn't remove Jordan.
The Update
Last night, an update was applied to that LW Announcement post. They had changed the listing of mods so that Jordan was no longer the top mod of any community and gave him a warning. A warning. We already had public demonstrations that he did not heed those warnings and was actively doubling down, saying he was correct. They did a thing they were aware he would ignore. That is equivalent to inaction. The bullet went through the ghost when you shot at it? Well, clearly time to shoot a second time!
To make things worse, when they changed who was top mod on the communities, they didn't warn them. Didn't warn one of them at least. @JonsJava@lemmy.world. Jons commented saying that he wasn't notified of this decision and the only warning he was given was days prior about the fact that as top mod he could remove Jordan if he wanted to. So to insulate themselves from having to make an actual decision, the admins instead shifted the order of the modteam and forced two users to become complicit in the situation in ways they weren't. While Jons was head mod of Jordan over on /c/News, he wasn't on another community. It seems like Jons was also staying out of the Jordan situation specifically to let the Admins make a decision which they punted back into his court.
This doesn't even make sense to me. On one hand they're doing something by taking him off of the modlist as top mod so clearly they're willing to do something. But on the other hand they're not willing to do a single thing of consequence. They claim that they're handcuffed by rules that they created yet their own listed rules openly demonstrate that Jordan can be removed. They have the head of lemmy.world saying that he doesn't want Jordan to be the face of the instance yet they're not exactly doing much about it.
I deleted my lemmy.world account last night and all associated posts. This weird behavior of protecting Jordan and ignoring behavior that goes against what they explicitly say and then throwing other moderators under the bus is not exactly a great look. One I want exactly zero part in.
You can sit there and say I wanna play investigative reporter or that I'm an attention whore or whatever else. I don't really care. I've been called worse by better people. But people keep pointing out the fact that I'm kinda recognizable on lemmy and I just got zero interest in backing the Lemmy equivalent of Reddit when I left reddit partially due to this wishy washy horseshit.
Always some kind of mod or admin drama at LW.
If they don't want to be featured and talked about as a big issues for Lemmy/piefed, they could stop being a garbage fire.
But instead they keep doing what they did before the fire and insist that doing nothing puts it out.
I'm not so sure they could.
Yeah exactly, I don't understand why people have the need to write these posts. You were not ok with what happened there, you deleted your account, done, finished, move on.
Why shouldn't we document the weird of admins doing things to keep people who don't know what they are doing in power?
Jordan has refused to learn better. He thinks he understands Canadian systems better than Canadians, then banned them.
Jordan has refused to admit he was wrong on several occasions. When debating (read: smug from incorrect info) @Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world about something the Democrats failed to do, Crab gave links that proved his side, Jordan gave links that proved Crab right, because he didn't read his own links, and then banned crab.
This isn't even getting into how other .world mods have had horrid positions. Like how Serinus thinks advocating for free Palestine is just as bad as what Israel does to Gaza, and wanted .world to become flat.world by wanting it to host conspiracy theories and bigotry.
Or how .world loves its trolls who do their job of propaganda for them, but think when they banned for being a troll, .world users will suddenly turn on the instance/mod who banned them.
I also had a bad experience with him (we discussed previously but for others itt): https://lemmy.world/post/36969200/19817472
Jordan is a weirdo, makes sense he hates feminists too.
I do not say abuses of power shouldn't be documented, I am saying THIS situation doesn't seem a big issues. But hey I also don't really care(I am here for the cat photos) and seeing how many people are ready to throw insults before arguments talks volumes about the ability of this community to resolve issues.
We've tried resolving the issue, the admins refused. Months on end. Clearly they don't want to listen to anything no matter how documented and "civil" it is to their ears.
I believe .world needs to be defederated by other major and medium instances.
This is part of the process of building consensus on that.
Because nothing gets better if nobody is willing to acknowledge and discuss the problem? Seems pretty obvious
.world is a problem. It's a toxic shit fire and feels like its stealing communities for things i want and holding them captive. When i see a person criticizing me us .world I just kind of ignore them, which probably isnt healthy but is definitely better than talking to them. I think the existence of .world and a 'default' server is a problem too.
And the political agenda they push under guise og neutrality is monstrous,
It serves as a warning to people when they evaluate what instances to make an account at. And the people who doesn't evaluate what instances to make an account at deserve what they fucking get. 🤡
Also, it's a nice reminder for the rest of us to just block the entire lemmy world.
The post literally said the previous post was deleted, and as person with a life I have absolutely no clue what this post is talking about. No relevant links to other posts, nothing. So if this is the documentation you are talking about.....
~~It's not deleted, dingus.~~ I am the dingus.
It was. I reposted it. They're right on that regard.
I am in fact the dingus here.
Happens to everyone lol
Why was the original post deleted?
Edit: I read this thread more and account deletion deleted posts. I forgot which account you used to post it. Me not know things.
I also forgot which account I used to post it when I deleted the account. Partially why it was taken out.
Mmmm gatekeeping, love it. I would assume most people do not care one way or another, they just want to see pictures of cute cats and some cool articles. If your idea of fun is tribalism about what instance you are on, you are the problem.
Jordan would remove your cat photo while saying he's never seen a cat look like that before, so it's clearly wrong. Or you hosted your cat blog on substack, and that's a no no, somehow.
That's not what the word gatekeeping means
Can I ask what's gatekeeping about saying that if you don't look into the community you create an account on, you deserve what you get?
I'm not sure that's gatekeeping.
What it is, is being kinda shitty. When I abandoned reddit for lemmy I didn't have much idea what I was doing so I signed up to .world. I understand there are better tools for choosing an instance now, but a ton of new people are going to end up on world by default. They don't deserve what they get.
Sure, the phrasing of "deserve" is pointed. I guess "you get what you get if you don't research" is more neutral. My other account is .world for the exact same reasons you outlined!
You have a point, maybe victim blaming is more accurate.
Right, up until you say your cute cat is vegan.
Nah still applies since lw using how they handled that as one of the reasons ~~excuses~~ why they didn't remove jl
Your comment is stupid so I will assume you're stupid too. I don't care to interact with you again, goodbye.
You sound like AI. Trolling via AI... What a concept.