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Folks who get really up in their feelings about the Trump/Harris election seem to forget that Harris was taking campaign advice from this guy. It's so easy to forget how absolutely poisoned so-called "Liberal Democracy" has become with a broad strain of fascist tendency.
On the one hand, you've got a guy who is looking to literally lay siege to cities in the US that didn't vote for him. On the opposite side of the pond, they're doing mass-arrests of anyone with a "Please Stop Killing Brown People" bumper sticker. And in the middle, a sea of smug dipshits posting "You got what you voted for".
Liberals will ALWAYS end up siding with the Fascists to try to suppress the Left. Happened in Germany in the 1930s, and the dumbass liberals eventually ended up lined up against the same walls the communists and socialists were lined up against. If you're a liberal today and defending this fascist suppression against Palestine Action: you're next.
Happened in the 1910s, even. Hence the old quip about Bernie Sanders killing Rosa Luxemburg.
Or marched out into the snows of Russia to seize more Lebensraum for the imperial core. Or just bombed to death in Dresden or Berlin when the front lines collapsed.
The hard math of living in a fascist state is standing up and getting shot today or ducking and hiding in hopes you won't get shot tomorrow.
Liberals made their bed back in 2009. We're all just living in the aftermath.
I'd argue that the Liberals are a little farther down the line. This administration isn't finished bullying women, intellectuals, non-Caucasians and the queer community to death, they're just getting started.
And then there's the Americans, for whom literally everything has to be about America in some way or another.
Have you seen their fiction? Even in sci-fi, they're the center of the fucking universe. Galactic Space Empire HQ, located in NYC/LA/San Francisco of course.
I mean... After the USSR fell, the US was the only major player in space for like 25 years, until China finally started to dabble the last few years.
It's not necessarily an ego stroke to extrapolate from that point.
But also, the media is targeted at American viewers. Of course they're going to use familiar cities.
Do you also complain that doctor who, despite being able to travel anywhere in the both the universe AND time, lands in modern day UK so often?
I do find it offensive that every time the Doctor and companions land in the US, everyone is a gun-toting dumbass.
I mean, it's accurate, but still offensive somehow!
All authors are like that. You write about what you know, that way you save yourself lots of research and mistakes.
As opposed to British fiction where everything os centered around London? George Orwell thought London would be the center of the Anglo-American axis back in 1948 while the British Empire crumbled around him.
What? He called it “Airstrip One”.
Your point being? Do you think Orwell named the UK after a US air force call sign that wouldn't be coined until after his death? I won't be lectured on literature by someone who has the media comprehension of a middle schooler.
Well, according to my middle school media comprehension the implication of the name “Airstrip One” is that the island of Great Britain acts as a bulwark against or potential invasion staging post to Eurasia, as it did in the Second World War. London is far from the Imperial Centre in that story, though there is no clear capital of Oceania and Ingsoc. Orwell’s pessimistic view of the UK’s future is as a province of the American Empire.
Similar issue, yes. It's said that you should write what you know, my point is more that Americans seem incapable of producing fiction where the lower 48 aren't the nexus of the universe, not that the British weren't also doing the same thing centuries earlier.
Aliens sure seem to visit London all the god damn time in Dr. Who. People write literature about the places and people they know. Why would an American write a book about aliens visiting Berlin?
Also, how long ago do you think 1948 was? Because it wasn't "centuries" ago. And the most prominent American sci-fi authors do not have their stories revolve around the US. The Foundation, Dune, Star Wars, and the Expanse were all written by American authors and only one of them has any characters from the USA
1948 was before black people were given equal rights in the US, so as far as I am concerned it should have been centuries ago. Stop dick measuring with the previous garbage empire like their shortcomings somehow excuse your own.
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Was it my support of civil rights or my pointing out how silly it is to compare yourself to a condemnable empire as a defense that made you mad?
I would love to discuss German, Indian, and Chinese sci-fi, but none of it seems to be very popular on the international stage so unfortunately we can't discuss it. The guy i responded to complained that American media focuses so much on America, while citing only Star Trek, but that's literally how media is in every country, so i cited British media because that's what i am familiar with as i am a dual citizen of both countries.
And perhaps associating the racist policies living people grew up with as something that happened centuries ago is why we can't make much progress today.
Sidenote: shout-out the Cyberiad by Stanisław Lem, a Polish author.
Or maybe it's using the fucking bri*ish empire as your yardstick for progress?
Where have i tried to use the British Empire to measure social progress? I mentioned an example of English literature where ot is comical to think England would be the nexus of power, which someone then said doesn't count because it was from "centuries ago". Now i don't even know what y'all are trying to yell about, as a thread about the British descent into fascism turned into American literature to whatever the hell you are even talking about at this point
Nobody's yelling, you are clearly having a minor meltdown.
Another user mentioned the valid point of American media being pretty self fellating when it comes to who is treated as the centre of civilisation, and you spat out your binky and decided to bring the UK into this. He responded that yes, Britain has been doing this for centuries (as empires tended to back before mainstream telecommunication), and you wilfully misunderstood his point, prattled on about doctor who and 1984.
I merely responded that measuring your dick against the British empire is a pretty fucking low bar, because that is what you did. I also reminded you that if you don't think 1948 was long enough ago (as you implied), maybe consider the social changes that have taken place.
You been running in circles answering questions nobody asked and misreading responses; a clear sign that you have gotten emotional and are not equipped to engage in this conversation as a reasonable actor.
The person you originally responded to was correct, you were wrong. Maybe learn from that instead of doubling down and randomly bringing the UK into it. To once again repeat, THIS particular thread is in response to someone correctly observing that American media is pretty self fellating when it comes to who is treated as the centre of civilisation.
Because lets face it, no matter how bad the UK might be, the US is in a far worse position right now. Crying about it and pointing fingers just makes you look petulant. If you can't deal with criticism of your country maybe you should stay out of discussions where it might come up?
Americans own the world. Everyone else just lives in it.
That might have been true 40 years ago but those times are gone, you just haven't realised it yet
What about the other 160 or so democracies? How they doin?
Especially the proportional representation ones. FPTP is just a hint of democracy.
I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers, but...
I'm counting far less than 160.
Sure. But then IRV still gave us NYC Eric Adams as mayor of New York. There's more to democracy than the shape of your ballot.
Calling Japan a full democracy is a stretch. They've been ruled by one party for over half a century, and definitely not b/c they're good at their jobs.
Sorry I didn't make any claims as to what constitutes a "full" democracy, I was going with these guys who put it at about 167 "democracies".
IRV is just FPTP+. Like you say, it isn't an electoral system so much as a ballot system.
We studied it, in Canada, under the name "Alternative Vote". It was the only one we could find that was worse than FPTP:
https://www.ourcommons.ca/content/Committee/421/ERRE/Reports/RP8655791/errerp03/06-RPT-Chap4-e_files/image002.gif
There's a reason why politicians keep suggesting it, and it's not for our benefit.
I'd settle for what defines "democracy" at all. I've seen folks claim El Salvador is a democracy while Nicaragua isn't, entirely because the government of El Salvador is politically aligned with the US and the Nicaraguans are not.
I don't really care what flavor of election system you think is the right one. However you square it, you can have shit candidates win popular mandates. There is no system that'll keep people you don't like out of office, shy of a dictatorship that puts you in charge.
Suggesting it? Thirteen states have now banned ranked-choice voting as municipalities decide on whether to adopt it
I met an Aussie in Thailand who claimed that ranked ballot elections are undemocratic, that recent Australian protests were not racist, that immigration was a huge problem in Australia, that Australians are not actually racist at all, and that recent Australian protests were about protesting Palestine, and not racist at all.
You're against logic and reason?
I'm not interested in a system that will keep people I don't like out of office. I'm interested in a system that represents the will of the people, rather than the will of a select rich and powerful few.
If you're willing to care, you might find one.
I don't see the problem here, like I said, it's worse than FPTP.