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if you used “y’all” to refer to the groups in these examples, “y’all” is a pronoun.
Chat is a metonym (not a pronoun) when you are referring to a group of people in a chatroom, real or imagined. That’s part of the new usage. What’s also part of the new usage is using “chat” but you aren’t thinking about the people you are addressing as part of a chatroom.
Plus we gotta examine the underlying context of how this usage started and how it has evolved. So it starts not as a pronoun when streamers start using it. Then it mutates as people start saying it in real life, outside of a streaming or chatroom context. So let’s say a young child hears someone say “chat, is this true”, and, without looking up what this means or the context, just starts saying it, without knowing what a chatroom is or without a specific audience in mind. I think at that point it becomes a pronoun.
Anyway, none of this is anything to get heated about.
Well, I guess you've chosen the path of not knowing what a pronoun is, since all of the examples you've given use chat as a noun. Good luck with that; I don't think we can have a productive conversation without shared meanings of words, so I'll bow out.
No one's getting particularly heated, we're just saying that someone who spews obvious nonsense in an area of supposed expertise probably shouldn't be trusted about other things.
Well chat, since this guy has bowed out, let me just say: I’ve been working with this description, per wikipedia:
Yeah obviously chat is going to appear as a noun in all those sentences, because it is functioning as a noun. It is sometimes a pronoun. You could just swap out “chat” in any of my guy’s statements with any pronoun and hey now there are no pronouns. We’re free!
And uh yeah flowery is clearly erupting. Just absolutely malding over some tiktoker because he said some stuff and flowery didn’t like the tone of his voice. Mad cos he’s stylin on you