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[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Conservatives. Conservatives are renowned for stigmatising LGBT folk out here in the real world. I thought most people knew this, but apparently not you.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

But only gay conservatives according to you.

And the reason they stigmatise queer people is ... because they're conservative.

If you insist that according to logic homophobia comes from queer people in denial, you need to bridge that last gap to avoid circular reasoning.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I never claimed they were at all logical. Conservatives? Nope.

To actually answer your question, though, it's a vicious cycle passed down from generation to generation. A bit of teasing others for being different is normal in children because of the fear of others, but responsible adults and parents teach children that that's not OK and a lot of people learn to share and be kind. Not so much conservatives. Conservatism is a developmental/learning disorder.

The ones that go on as adults to be loud homophobes and start making all kinds of claims about how it's a choice and objecting to the existence of gay literature or gay porn or out gay people are clearly still frightened, but of what? Why do they feel the need to make it so clear they want nothing to do with it? Why do they call gay porn temptation if it isn't tempting? Why do they worry that young people will see something gay and feel the urge to join "the gay lifestyle" if it left them cold and unmoved? Why so they call it a lifestyle choice if they never had to choose? The answer is really simple but somehow you can't see it and you instead deny it strongly.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Just because you believe something to be true, does not make it true. Its really important you grapple with that fact.

If the origin of homophobia is from fear of the other, why can that not persist as a major cause going forward. Especially as you note people do not, at scale, act rationally.

This is the only bigotry where people try and pin it mostly on the minority who suffer from it.

You would never accuse misogynists of being secret women, or racists of being secretly black.

Its only here where the difference is invisible that you like to deny, diminish and downplay the involvement of the majority in upholding bigotry.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

This is the only bigotry where people try and pin it mostly on the minority who suffer from it.

No one feels a lot of sympathy for a bunch of hypocrites being extraordinarily nasty to LGBTQ+ folks just to cover up their own shame and self hatred.

No. Your sob story is BULLSHIT.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not asking you to have sympathy for bigots.

I'm asking you not to blame victims of bigotry for the existence of thst bigotry.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

You can't have it both ways, either they're hypocritical closeted LGBTQ+ Republicans who crash grindr when their GOP convention turns up, turning their self hatred into a horrible climate of fear that keeps people miserable and closeted, (in which case they're not just nasty, they're betraying each other), or they're not victims.

So, again, NO.
Your sob story is BULLSHIT.