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[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Suggesting all homophobes are gay is a great way for the straight community to avoid taking responsibility for their role in perpetrating homophobia. Most homophobes are straight haters.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 18 hours ago

I've said before that the projection arguement is just used too often. Yes some of them are probably in denial about their own preferences but I would say that the vast majority are just awful people.

I think transphobics tend to have a greater chance of being trans than homophobics have been gay, possibly because homophobia is looked down on by society, (at least in the West) in a way that maybe transphobia isn't quite as much. There are countries that have legalised gay marriage, but not hormone therapy, which is just bizarre.

[–] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

I think that homophobes are jealous of gays. Jealous and envious to the point of hate. I think that homophobes span the entire human range of desires but at some point the thing that they desire the most was denied to them because it is "evil". And they just can't fucking handle the idea of gay/trans/ect out there just doing what they desire and not being punished for it. I think for many of them, homosexual and bisexual desires are definitely the issue, but there's plenty of straight homophobes with desires that they have been told is evil. And then there's the plenty who actually want truly evil shit.
But you are correct, it's not just closeted gays hating on themselves, it just happens that those seem to be the ones that seem to be the most vocal and visible.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's also a way to tell gay people "really, this is your fault"

[–] hedge_lord@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

No "normal" person (like me!) would be homophobic, if they are homophobic they're probably "abnormal" (just like you!!!)

(sarcasm disclaimer: this is meant to be interpreted sarcastically)

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Secretly gay/bisexual. Closeted. Self-hating, spreading their hate. Trying to cling onto a precarious hold on the straight lifestyle, they want to eliminate "temptation". Dudes, it's only tempting if you're already bi.

At least on the right it seems that way, with the Republican convention regularly crashing grindr.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And that is still a fraction of the community. The fact remains straight people outnumber LGBT+ folks by a considerable margin thus most haters are just hateful straight folks.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 22 hours ago

or closeted straight people, closeted straight people might skew the statistics a bit.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People who publicly identify as straight outnumber people who publicly identify as LGBTQ+, but the percentage of not solely straight rises in younger generations. Is it because of the vaccines (?!) or might it be that if you reduce the social penalty for admitting you're bi, the frequency of public identification as such rises?

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bill And The Romans Talk About Sexuality | The Eaters Of Light | Doctor Who

"I'm just ordinary... you know, like men and women...

"Well isn't this all very modern."

"Hey, not everyone has to be modern. I think it's really sweet that you're so restricted."

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Superb. Thank you for the link.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

they dint say All homophobes are gay, its just alot of them. the most outspoken ones tend to be the ones in the closet, or the ones that act very strangely around the notion of being gay. for the latter, i saw a video of a bodybuilder who was Hiding his face with a surgical mask(way before pandemic), everyone commented how he afraid of being gay, eventhough he showing off his body.(which is wierd in itself, because asians are pretty conservative as well)

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 18 hours ago

the most outspoken ones tend to be the ones in the closet

Just out of interest where are you getting that information from? Of all the really outspoken ones, the ones with online followings and the ones that are always turning up at rallies, I can't think of any that have ever actually come out as gay. So how do we know if they've been in denial or not?

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Definitely true, but when it comes to the most extreme homophobes, there's no hatred like self-hatred.