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[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They're following an illegal order.

[–] jali67@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I do not agree with Trump but the NG (so far) have not done anything crazy where they have been deployed. Sitting around twiddling their thumbs is hardly harming anyone. Most of them do not want to be involved in this nonsense. They have not been like the sociopaths in ICE.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

The NG has no business being in the public eye and confronting the police at their own job. This is like me popping up at your job in camo with a gun and watching you. Yeah no, not doing anything crazy though.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They still traitors. They could have refused their illegal orders and opted not to. Especially after DJT's whole speech about war against americans and the enemy at home.

[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

The supreme court seems to bear out that Trump's orders are constitutional and legal, and therefore they are following legitimate orders.

The problem isn't that they are traitors, the problem is that they aren't, but they should be.

[–] potpotato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Their actions in LA were ruled illegal and multiple cities have federal cases about Trump’s use of Title 10. Not sure how the Supreme Court has weighed in.

[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

The Posse Comitatus Act makes using troops to enforce federal law illegal, it's true, and the UCMJ does say violating the law is an illegal order. But it's not unconstitutional, and given the order came directly from the president and given the "unitary executive" bullshit that the supreme court has been on recently, I think it might be dubious that the LA ruling would survive an appeal that made it to the supreme court.