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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 96 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Eh, one of the slower ways to kill a billionaire, but at least it is still killing them.

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 73 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Its pretty fast really. They're dead the second their body functions stop. Nobody has ever survived being frozen solid. Not really. Coming back from that is a death sentence.

[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The idea is that you put the frozen head in a brain scanner and the synapses are still intact so you can emulate them in a computer or specialised android hardware.

This way the rich can become imortal gods as the poor can be made to work 24/7 at 10000x efficiency

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

At this point, I'm not sure they still need the poor. Automation will handle all the work.

Unless they want to keep a couple around as novelties to show off.

Or for sex. Probably they'll keep some of them around for sex. Provided they still have that need.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Could you imagine a Star Trek future where some psycho is trying to revive these racist dead fascist!?

[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago

There's an episode of TNG where they revive 3 people who were on a cryogenic space capsule.

One of them was an entitled wall street trader who was completely out of touch with reality and actually thought he was rich because he thought his stock were still there, and that he would try to order Cap. Picard around thinking the Enterprise was some sort of jet company.

He was constantly dismissed as a rambling old man. Funny episode.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Yeah... and it's a dumb idea. Consciousness is not software.

[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

What I consciousness though?

It's clearly not hardware, if either an emulated brain can be conscious or just pretends to do so is impossible to prove or disprove.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What I consciousness though?

It's organic.

if either an emulated brain can be conscious or just pretends to do so is impossible to prove or disprove.

The point is moot - the consciousness of the frozen billionaire is non-existent in either case.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (41 children)

It’s organic

Why? Why could there not be a non-organic consciousness?

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

Going to take it a step further and say artificial life is just organic life with extra steps.

The concept of robots that continued to evolve post creators is not new to scifi.

In some ways our own body is simply an emergent complex machine of regenerative biodegradable micro hardware.

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[–] PixxlMan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

You don't know that. Literally, you don't. Nobody does. This might be your opinion and that's fine, but stating it as fact is disingenuous

[–] relic__@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You will never be able to make a perfect copy of the brain and anything less means you wouldn't be "you" anymore. Any of these schemes about copying the brain are moot because of that, I think.

[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

Given advanced enough technology making a perfect scan on the brain seems perfectly duable, you're not breaking any laws of physic that I know off.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

You don’t know that.

I also don't know whether ghosts exist. Will you go to bat for them, too?

but stating it as fact is disingenuous

Pretending that consciousness is software because movies and videogames portrays it working like software is far more disingenuous, I'd say.

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[–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No, ideally the brain itself (at least) can actually be revived and made to be medically stable. Which assumes the preservation process does not cause too much damage.

(and also it's vitrification not freezing, though reversing it is still not something that has been done obviously)

I mean sure, some people are fine with a brain scan (and cryo companies might just say that to temper expectations)... but that sounds like idiot talk to me. I say this as someone who has thought about stuff like this for escapism reasons, not that I have any chance of covering even a reservation fee.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago

You can't vitrify something as large as a human. This is all people watching too much shitty sci-fi being exploited by con artists.

[–] Keegen@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They made an entire game centred around this concept and why it doesn't work the way they want it to (it's also a dang good game in general and perfect pick for Spooktober).

[–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I hoped someone would bring SOMA up.

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