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The idea is that you put the frozen head in a brain scanner and the synapses are still intact so you can emulate them in a computer or specialised android hardware.
This way the rich can become imortal gods as the poor can be made to work 24/7 at 10000x efficiency
Yeah... and it's a dumb idea. Consciousness is not software.
What I consciousness though?
It's clearly not hardware, if either an emulated brain can be conscious or just pretends to do so is impossible to prove or disprove.
It's organic.
The point is moot - the consciousness of the frozen billionaire is non-existent in either case.
Why? Why could there not be a non-organic consciousness?
Going to take it a step further and say artificial life is just organic life with extra steps.
The concept of robots that continued to evolve post creators is not new to scifi.
In some ways our own body is simply an emergent complex machine of regenerative biodegradable micro hardware.
There maybe could, but it would be a different one from the person. A second consciousness that was copied.
To my knowledge we are nowhere close to being able to actually transfer a consciousness
Of course we aren't close. But the above poster was making a categorical statement that consciousness must be biological.
There's a whole field of philosophy dealing with that question, there's no consensus yet, though interesting ideas have surfaced
You don't know that. Literally, you don't. Nobody does. This might be your opinion and that's fine, but stating it as fact is disingenuous
I also don't know whether ghosts exist. Will you go to bat for them, too?
Pretending that consciousness is software because movies and videogames portrays it working like software is far more disingenuous, I'd say.
That depends on their definition of software. If software is partly defined as something we can create, and consciousness is something we can't even fully understand, let alone create, then they are correct.
You will never be able to make a perfect copy of the brain and anything less means you wouldn't be "you" anymore. Any of these schemes about copying the brain are moot because of that, I think.
Given advanced enough technology making a perfect scan on the brain seems perfectly duable, you're not breaking any laws of physic that I know off.
We are legion. We are Bob.
But but software can think now, it's totally not copying and pasting together random segments it scraped online
No, ideally the brain itself (at least) can actually be revived and made to be medically stable. Which assumes the preservation process does not cause too much damage.
(and also it's vitrification not freezing, though reversing it is still not something that has been done obviously)
I mean sure, some people are fine with a brain scan (and cryo companies might just say that to temper expectations)... but that sounds like idiot talk to me. I say this as someone who has thought about stuff like this for escapism reasons, not that I have any chance of covering even a reservation fee.
You can't vitrify something as large as a human. This is all people watching too much shitty sci-fi being exploited by con artists.
They made an entire game centred around this concept and why it doesn't work the way they want it to (it's also a dang good game in general and perfect pick for Spooktober).
I hoped someone would bring SOMA up.
Could you imagine a Star Trek future where some psycho is trying to revive these racist dead fascist!?
There's an episode of TNG where they revive 3 people who were on a cryogenic space capsule.
One of them was an entitled wall street trader who was completely out of touch with reality and actually thought he was rich because he thought his stock were still there, and that he would try to order Cap. Picard around thinking the Enterprise was some sort of jet company.
He was constantly dismissed as a rambling old man. Funny episode.