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Russia about to perform the miracle of becoming an even shittier place.
Russia has a ton of practice at becoming an even shittier place.
It's like their thing.
It's actually kind of mind boggling. Lenin knew this was a thing and took all sorts of steps to correct it, but his mistake was demanding it to improve by force. "We're making your lives better now, or else."
I mean, shit, a big ass group of armed dudes on horses show up in my cold ass disconnected village and they say we need to do x, y, and z to improve our lives or else? Yeah that's sus.
It’s almost like all authoritarian government is actually a bad thing
Looking at you, China, USA
Gestures broadly to all recorded history.
Don't you mean every state?
Not really. Actual democracies have incentives to make things better for the majority of people. And the easiest way to do that is to break up monopolies (especially in media), tax the rich, and then invest heavily in education.
Coincidentally, the way to kill a democracy is to do the exact opposite.
Show me a state that has done any of this to great sucess? Even democracies don't seem to have much stay past two hundred and fifty years.
A state always ends as authoritarian tool used against the people it persecutes the most. Very snow ball effect like.
Yes, states end up authoritarian when the people give up on democracy. You seem to be using this as an argument to encourage people to give up, but that's just self fulfilling prophecy.
Uh? Na-ah. You show me working alterternative.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroquois
So your example is coalation of 50 tripes with council who decites major decitions? Wow. That really sound ground breaking and unique way to govern people.
Didint their end beging when they could not agree how to respond to British Crown request of aid during the American Revolution?
You act like any state did any better for the people it ruled at the time.
No. I asked you an example of a better system and you did not deliver.
And you failed to show it is at not better? Because of one mistake? While fighting colonialism?
No. I asked you to prove your point and like i tought you just wanted to bash common modern ways of ruling without offering any concrete alternative.
The only example you produced was failed coalation of tribes, that was not unique in the eyes of history or especially well functioning alternative to modern goverments.
You just earlier argued that in any state where somebody has power they will use it wrong. How their system was immune to that?
Per your source. Also important to note that those that were allowed to sit on the "grand council" were determined through hereditary succession. So if this government had power it would be essentially a confederacy ruled by nobles.
I won't disagree that a nice decentralized democratic society would be pretty awesome, but it's also a lot harder to do with 7 billion people.
In your example each clan would have been no larger than a small town. Less than 1,000 people. Of course, there were towns that used to exist in the Americas that were much larger, but for many we don't know how those were governed. Particularly those in North America. By thr time Europeans began asking the large cities had collapsed due to disease