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[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 105 points 1 day ago (4 children)

A newly revealed memo from the Office of Management and Budget claims that federal workers forced into furlough during the ongoing shutdown may not receive back pay once the ordeal ends. In open defiance of the law, the administration argues that the 2019 Government Employee Fair Treatment Act does not automatically guarantee wages to workers sent home or ordered to labor without compensation. The government that once promised fairness has now declared that those who serve it may be discarded. This is not confusion. It is control.

Eventually people are gonna decide that working for free sucks and they just won't come in.

[–] Sausagecat@lemmy.world 85 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sadly, that is the point. Part of project 2025 is to remove as many workers as they can and when a position needs to be filled, make sure it's a loyalist. This is just the means to an end for the fascist.

[–] rayyy@piefed.social 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

when a position needs to be filled, make sure it’s a loyalist

Mostly inept, incompetent, stupid loyalists.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's like the Dead Sea Effect with steps on the end.

[–] Zanathos@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Learned something new today, thank you internet stranger.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We can let the seats be empty and stop them from filling it with anyone if the government stays shutdown and we also get the benefit of the armed forces and ice not being paid so they will stop kidnapping people

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Are you kidding? That's their fucking dream job. They'd even pay just for the privilege. Fucking pigs

[–] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Should be minute 1. Unpaid work is slavery

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No it's not. It's wage theft, plain and simple

[–] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's wage theft except the part where they're forcing them to work.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They could just quit. For some positions, you can't strike, which is bullshit enough, but you can just say fuck you I quit

No one will put you in chains and lock you to your desk, it's not legal to retaliate

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You also give up your pension and ability to work for the government again. Thinking of ATC specifically, where you won't ever be able to work in your field again in the US (and it's very rare to be able to continue working in ATC in another country)

That's a tough ask when economic conditions are so unstable

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 10 hours ago

It is a tough ask, especially now, which is why I'm not asking. I do think it's unreasonable to ask

But I'd like to remind the people in that position that it is an option. People tend to dismiss options they should seriously think through...It's not an easy option, but it might be worse than the alternative

[–] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah sure, everybody CAN just quit.

"It's not legal to retaliate"? Motherfucker when has this administration cared about what's legal, they're talking about making people work and then not giving them back pay.

Even before the trump administration's it's not as if the labour market was fair lol.

Why are you going to bat for people trying to enslave workers exactly?

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 4 points 21 hours ago

Because, motherfucker, I want them to quit. They are not slaves to the state, and when things break because of their absence that's great politically

And we have a name for this already - wage theft. I hope every employee, furloughed or still working, puts forward a lawsuit

I'm not about to pressure people to quit because the job market is hell right now, but I'm sure as hell going to remind them it's an option

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

gee I wonder why air traffic controllers are getting sick.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

It's perfectly valid, and expected, that ATC would call in sick if they so much as didn't sleep well. One mistake could cause the deaths of hundreds of people. Sean Duffy did threaten them with firings if they call in sick, but the policies didn't change

I'd say the vast majority calling in sick legitimately are unfit to work. The stress of non-payment is not conducive to that type of work, especially when their wages have fallen ~40% relative to inflation over the past 20 years

[–] manxu@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago

I think the worst part is that Trump openly flirted with paying only the people he likes - his MAGA folks, and only the parts of government he likes. You work on wind turbine safety? No pay for you.