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Vance humiliated over 'obvious' plan to 'take out' Trump's kids for his own ambition
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This is a good example of why I don't think Vance will be able to supplant Trump. Trump is a master troll, he does a way better job of baiting people to keep engaging with him. You have to be the right kind of frustrating. Vance is just irksome, but not in a way that baits you or makes you wish you could try your hand at debating with him. Trump manages to make it so enticing to keep talking to him. He makes it feel like you might be able to get a good own in on him if you just try. But Vance is such a tryhard and just reads as this annoying little fly that you can just swat away
A master troll? He just leveraged the weaponization of hate and stupidity during a time of economic unrest.
I think you're giving him too much credit here.
Specific to his ability to keep the media engaged, i think it's that he's just exactly the right kind of stupid.
I think about how Ken M is so effective at dragging people into his stupidity...now that is BRILLIANT. Calculated. A true master.
Trump is merely a savant. Mozart to Ken M's Salieri.
No he doesn't. Any time anyone asks Trump anything other than a fawning non-question, he just berates them and shuts them down. I've never seen him actually debate a single thing.
For sure, I'm not saying Trump actually debates anyone. It's just that his specific way of being obnoxious and combative is so much more effective at goading people into engaging with him.
No puppet! No puppet! You’re the puppet!
I think thats kind of the point of him; he makes donny look like a stateman in comparison. More to the point, I think hes meant to be a vessel to transfer the control of the maga party to someone else once Donny dies.
Donnie dies, he becomes president, maga goes into mourning. Pundits dismiss anyone trying to make a move for leadership, except whoever theil et al have chosen as the replacement, who gets to 'campaign' to the base without competition (everyone else gets told its not the time, to have respect for trump, and the nation is mounting etc)
After their new guy has had time to ingratiate himself to the magats, Vance nominates him to VP. The media then plays up Vance's unlikeability, and blames everything thats failing under trump right now on him- and hes either forced to step down, or 25thed as unfit, allowing the new guy to take the office of presidency. Bonus is if they can string out president vance until the halfway mark, the new guy gets 2 years that dont count as a term for him- meaning he can rule for 10 years before they have to worry about abolishing term limits or finding a new figurehead.
This is a horrible outcome for us, but Vance should just choose MTG if he wants to go rogue and stay president. She’s definitely not going to be thiels pick, and she’s got enough cachet with the MAGA crowd to keep them happy. He might even think that would defang her, like it has with other VPs, but I think she’d find some way to steal the spotlight on a regular basis.
Again, I cannot stress enough that this would be the worst choice for anyone other than Vance and MTG