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Rueben Antonio Cruz was sitting with a friend in Rogers Park when ICE agents pulled up onto the street.

The immigration officers stopped their truck and went straight after them on Oct. 9, Cruz told the Tribune.

“They asked us if we have papers. I said I do but I don’t have them on me,” Cruz, a 60-year old man with heart problems originally from El Salvador, recalled in Spanish.

The agents stood Cruz up, put him in their truck, drove around in circles, and asked questions, he said.

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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 121 points 16 hours ago (6 children)

Under federal law, registered foreign nationals must carry proof of registration with them at all times. But prior to a second Trump administration, it was rarely enforced.

Apparently green-card holders have to carry their green cards around all the time. This law was so rarely enforced that I never knew about it despite having been a green-card holder myself.

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 99 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The thing is, US Citzens don’t have to carry papers with them, so there is no way to enforce it without stomping all over the rights of citizens. We should all be outraged over the expectation of producing papers.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 48 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

This is what it’s really all about; everybody has rights, or no one does. There is no in between.

[–] sepi@piefed.social 12 points 11 hours ago

Former green card holder here: I read all the paperwork I got and I always carried my green card on me cos I was aware of the requirement. Am a bit paranoid about paperwork.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

My friend got her green card about 20 years ago, and she said they made it very clear she needed to carry it at all times.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 5 points 11 hours ago

Because no one forgets, ever. And even if they don't, what prevents a bad actor from stealing it?

All my youth, it was stressed to always carry my ID and social security card. Them it was "in two separate places," and then, "leave ss card home."

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 12 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

My wife used to be a green card holder it was made clear to her when she got it that she needed to always carry it. Not defending the gestapo's actions, but the dude should not have left the card at home.

[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I gotta point out that in Canada at least, unless you're driving you don't need to carry any ID. You could be a freshly landed immigrant and you don't really need to carry anything. Unless you're driving, buying alcohol / weed or need to register for something. Its wild to me that "not having your papers" while just going about your day in the world is not resulting in major protests. Just wild.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 8 points 14 hours ago

I was still a kid (under 18) when I had a green card so maybe I didn't get the official lecture for that reason, and then my parents didn't think it was important enough to tell me.

[–] Fit_Series_573@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago

I guess similar to jaywalking. Very few people ever get fined/charged with it even though it being a crime in most states in the US.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 10 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

I saw that. Why hasn't that been changed under any administration? Is it something we need to address?

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 35 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I think that having unenforced laws is in general a bad thing because then the government can use selective enforcement as a tool of oppression, so you won't find me objecting to a repeal. Maybe it'll happen if there's ever a major backlash against Trump's immigration policies.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 15 hours ago

I would like for it to be addressed, regardless of the administration.

I hope you and yours stay safe and healthy in every way, friend.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

Doesnt that mean they can arrest everyone at the beach for nothing other than them not having their paperwork in the water with them. Throw them in the back of a truck and then if they so happened to be a green card fine them.

The whole thing seems sketchy.
"Why are you arresting/ticketing me?" "Because there is no way you have papers in that Speedo"

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

republicans don't want to do it, and no one thought to include it as a rider on funding for israel, so democrats didn't do it.