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Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) said Monday the government shutdown is on its way to being one of the longest in history unless Democrats accept the House-passed, GOP-crafted stopgap bill to reopen the government.

“We’re barreling toward one of the longest shutdowns in American history, unless Democrats dropped their partisan demands and passed a clean, no-strings-attached budget to reopen the government and pay our federal workers,” Johnson said in a press conference on the 13th day of the government shutdown.

Congressional leaders have been locked in a standoff over government funding as Democrats demand that Republicans make concessions on health care, notably Affordable Care Act tax credits that are expiring at the end of the year. Republican leaders have refused to negotiate on health care during a shutdown, arguing that that Democrats must accept the “clean” funding stopgap the House passed in September — and which has failed to advance in the Senate seven times.

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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago (5 children)

One thing I hate is how Democrats are always left fighting a crappy fight...

Republicans, propose horrific shit.

Democrats, can we have slightly less horrific stuff plz?

Republicans, ok i guess...! Deal!

Public: pikachu face

That's why Democrats keep losing... Even if they win this AOC funding fight... So what? Healthcare is still as awful as ever, it'll just be slightly less awful...No-one in the public will think of this as some massive Democratic victory that'll make them change their vote.

Where are the Democrats fighting for actual change, actually, shoot for the fucking moon and settle for the sky...

Democrats just never feel like they are fighting.

This isn't some both sides horseshit, the Republicans do fight. Except they fight for genuinely horrific stuff and for the billionaire class.

Who are the Democrats fighting for? Are they fighting at all?

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 6 points 5 days ago

Who are the Democrats fighting for? Are they fighting at all?

I think the problem is that they're getting bribed by the same big business types as the Reps, but that does not jibe well with what Democrats stand for, or at least should be standing for. (btw I believe that Reps are 100% corrupt by now, Dems somewhat less than that. Hopefully a lot less.)

And many of them are probably still reeling from the idea that there's no rules for running a country anymore, kicks below the belt are the norm.

Both aspects are harsh criticisms from me:

  1. corruption sucks, it has to end
  2. how can you still not have realized that there are no gentleman rules anymore? Maybe said corruption is preventing you?
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It's the classic scenario of it's hard to build things up, and it's easy to tear things down. The GOP can obstruct and block and delay and demand concessions with any one of the 3 houses: house of representatives, senate, and presidency. For the Dems to pass anything they need, drumroll please, all 3 houses. And they have had that for, drumroll please, 6 years out the the last 44 years.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It’s the classic scenario of it’s hard to build things up, and it’s easy to tear things down.

This very much. OTOH it's nothing new, ever since Trump1.0 they should have realized that there'd be no more constructive compromising anymore.

[–] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 days ago

Democrats does the bare minimum that they think makes them look like they are working. Their motivation is money, just like the republicans. They are part of the game and have their role to play. They get payed by the same interest groups.

But this is just what I think is going on. I'm an internet bozo.

[–] JuBe@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

I saw it somewhere else on here, but I liked the suggestion of Democrats adding demands for popular changes as the shutdown continues on (e.g., Medicare for All, Medicaid expansion, no hungry kids, etc.), and I love it.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They don't have a leader or any vision. You can't fight for a dramatic change without a unified vision and strong leader that is willing to do things that may seem unpopular to some. By trying to appeal to everybody, they appeal to nobody. Watch/listen to this interview with the DNC Chair that Join Stewart did, it's pretty obvious what the problem is: https://youtu.be/SLi6gB0_hpE.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

In a way they cover too broad a demographic. While Republicans simply barrel through any sort of diversity.

Another downside of a two-party system.