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The idea that writers aren’t entitled to a cut of the profit made off their work is stupid, not sorry. Companies literally wouldn’t have a product people want to buy without it.
A cut of the product is what stocks are for.
No, stocks are for investing in companies.
Again, THEY DON’T OWN THE PRODUCT.
And? They created it. Without them it does not exist. If their labor is worth so little then why is Hollywood putting so much money and time into breaking the strikes so they can own their labor without fully compensating them for it? Why does a company deserve to own a money printing machine but the people who made what they sell don’t deserve anything from it?
Here's the history of residuals and they started in the 60's through a strike. Cheers to it working again. https://www.sagaftra.org/membership-benefits/residuals/history-residuals
So should a construction worker be paid every time you drive across a road they built? Should a plumber be paid every time you flush a toilet they installed?
Should you be getting paid to carry water for Hollywood corporations that make tens of billions a year every time you post, or just the first time?
Again, THEY DON’T OWN THE PRODUCT. If they want residuals, then need to negotiate that with the network. As it is, they are paid $25-35K per episode which is a LOT of money for a weekly show per season.
Stop the White-Knighting for people who probably make exponentially more money than you do. Again- If they want to make royalties/residuals they can either negotiate for it- or create their own production company.
I’m not going to argue about this with you.
How much do the studio, producer, directer, and showrunners make? I think the writers are equal to the producer, directer and showrunners at least. Do they make more than I do? Probably. All of us should be sharing in more of the profits, not taking others down.
They’re contracted. So it’s irrelevant. It’s all based on what agreements they made with the production co.
The keyword here is “I think….”
When they’re not risking loss, they’re NOT equal.
No one is taking anyone down here. It’s just logical argument. You are basing everything on how you think it should be, without knowing how it is.
I assume a majority of them are on the lower end of your estimate at $25 per episode.
Look it up yourself.
I did and your numbers are wildly inflated. The average rate for network TV is $22.50 an hour, or $49,500 per year assuming full time employment, which would put them at $3,300 per episode with a 15 episode (roughly halfway between the old 22 episode format and current 10 episode format) season per year.
I guess this proves that the internet will tell us what we want to hear, doesn’t it? Because the numbers I found support my point. Either way, it doesn’t matter
They don’t own the product, they don’t take on the risk, they don’t get residuals. That’s how things work.
Answer the question. Why is a company entitled to print money off the creative work of artists? What entitles them to that and not the people who actually create the value?
Lmao, you don't know what you're talking about. What right wing rag told you this shit? Virtually no writers are making that much. I'd be shocked if a dozen are. Do you think the WGA is made up solely of millionaires?
You're not arguing with me about it because you're so uninformed you can't even have a conversation about it.
The company doesn't print money off of the creative work of the artists, they bundle that work with the work of others they've paid for the product and hope it makes some money. Sometimes that goes terribly, so would the artists also like to be on the hook for losses?
Sometimes I get down on myself for not being a very good person, but your comments made me realize I'm pretty good actually, or at least I don't have completely shite opinions like yours, so thanks for lifting my spirits
Ditto.