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You sure af don’t throw them into adult prison with zero access to schooling, no counseling, and punishments like being locked in solitary for days on end. Not unless you WANT to ensure they stay criminals.
Which they do because they use them for slave labor at Angola
I agree with you overall, but they are not "in adult prison" - they're in a separate section, fenced off from the rest of the prison. LA juvenile facilities have been in disrepair for years, and the kids often riot and wreck shit (I would too if I were in their situation, so I'm not judging), but that means the normal facilities often aren't suitable either. They're basically renting space from Angola.
We just had some major prison reforms, but we still need a lot of changes to the juvenile system.
So again, what do you do with them when they have committed further violent attacks against other teens that are trying to get better?
I’m not defending the conditions, but saying stupid shit like “wHy ArE kIdS iN pRiSoN aNyWaY” is dumb. Because they committed violent crimes. That’s why.
You do not put children in adult prison. It doesn’t have the facilities for counseling or education to help them.
You’re acting like they aren’t still minors and we should just give up on them because they’re violent instead of trying to rehabilitate them.
And also, we have no idea if these teenagers were put into jail for violent crimes. There’s nothing saying that in the article. You’ve just decided it out of nowhere and set up a straw man.
No I read other articles about it. Including one from last year when they were first moved out of juvvie.
These are extremely violent teens committing serious violent crimes. After already being in juvvie.
So again, what do you do with extremely violent criminals that break out of juvenile facilities and commit attempted murder and carjacking while they’re on the escape?
You move the violent ones to a facility that can handle violent criminals and keep the ones that want to rehabilitate in a normal juvenile facility.
Why do you keep responding to "So what DO we do?" by just repeating what we shouldn't do?
Sure you can make the assumption that what they did shouldn't have put them in prison, but the legal system did come to that assumption. And you have to either resolve the reason or resolve the solution, you can't just ignore both.
Juvenile detention like any fucking sane place, dorkus.
All of them WERE in juvenile detention already. They were moved out after committing further violent acts against other juveniles.
So again, what do you do with violent teenagers that have already had a chance in a normal juvenile detention center and committed further violent crimes while there?
Can you provide a source on that? Also, you can provide a social worker or professional counselor at the very least. Which this prison promised to do and failed to deliver.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/louisiana-sending-youth-angola-prison-rcna39150
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It was roughly 25 kids in juvenile detention already that were too violent for the facility they were in, including breaking out and shooting someone.
Thanks for the additional context! Sounds like Louisiana has an issue with prison management at both adult and juvenile detention centers
Yeah Louisiana is a shithole in a lot of regards. Their prisons are god awful third world hell holes.
I’m absolutely not defending how prisoners, teens or adults, are treated there. It’s abhorrent and the Feds should step in and put some heads on pikes over it.
I’m just saying the article is using “children” pretty loosely here to put an image in your head. These aren’t innocent scared little kids. These are teenagers that have committed very violent crimes including attempted murder.
That’s sadly common across a lot of the South.
I've found there is an overwhelming amount of loud morons in these communities. This is thread has been no different. The downvotes speak volumes.
The demographics here appear to lean heavily towards people with zero awareness of the world outside their bubble with zero curiosity to expand it.