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[-] sholomo@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

who even mentioned communism? it's okay to criticize capitalism as it is today. We're destroying the planet, destroying society but whenever anyone criticizes capitalism all these edgelords come in to flip it to communism

[-] ByteWizard@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago

I criticized capitalism. I know it's not perfect.

But what other economic system would be the alternative if not communism? The meme doesn't make any constructive suggestions like I did, which is to make yourself valuable so you don't end up in a dead-end job. Failure to provide individual value is not a fault of capitalism, that's a personal failure.

[-] lingh0e@lemmy.film 1 points 1 year ago

Dude... "make yourself valuable" is not a constructive suggestion. A person flipping burgers IS providing value for their employer because their employer sells those burgers for profit. If a company needs people to perform labor for profit, no matter how menial or unskilled you think that labor is, they should pay those people a fair wage.

And no, fast food is not "meant to be a career". But that's not an excuse to exploit the labor of the people who take those jobs. Especially not when corporate profits are through the roof.

I have personally worked in jobs that facilitated millions of dollars in profits for my companies, and not a single one of them paid an actual living wage. The funny thing is that those jobs also tended to be a lot easier and require less actual skill than the customer service jobs I'd had.

Then you have my early boomer dad. One of his first jobs was pumping gas and washing cars at a gas station. That's not "skilled labor" nor is it "supposed to be a career". He was still paid well enough he could afford his first apartment.

But what other economic system would be the alternative if not communism?

[Do you honestly believe those are the only options?] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_system#List_of_economic_systems)

[-] ByteWizard@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

“make yourself valuable” is not a constructive suggestion

Getting an education or skill isn't a 'constructive suggestion'?? You clearly have a point to make and it's not based on logic. BTW you can call it whatever you want, there are only two classes of ownership - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Economic_Systems_Typology_(v4).jpg

I'm going to point this out for anyone else reading this: Flipping burgers is an 'unskilled labor' type of job. Yes flipping burgers provides value, but it's not much and you can be replaced easily, which is why the job doesn't pay very much. When you have an education or skills you can provide much more value to your employer and so they pay YOU more in return. In fact with enough skills they will fight to hire you, or if you want even more of the cut you can be a consultant.

Capitalism provides these opportunities through the open market. Something communism doesn't have. You are sent to whatever job they want you to do under communism.

this post was submitted on 11 Sep 2023
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