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The rich guy didn't built the robot by himself. Most likely he only financed by paying the people who actually built it. He didn't built his business by himself but paid people to built it for him even if he had the idea.
He had an idea because he's smart and had the education to support his intelligence. He had that education because someone paid for it, either family or the state. Even if he paid for it he had the upbringing that taught him the value of education and had the luck to be born in a country where that education is valued and pays off.
Nothing he has was built by himself only. The only thing we do by ourselves is taking a shit.
Yeah it helps if daddy is rich, like Donald Trump who claims he did it all by himself, on a "small" ($ 60 mill.) loan from his dad, and then he inherited a huge fortune.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/02/trumps-small-loan-from-his-father-was-more-like-60point7-million-nyt.html
Or Elron Musk who grew up on the benefits of daddy owning an emerald mine.
Both are absolutely the worst kind of narcissist sociopaths that come from privilege, so the old claim of the rich having heavy responsibilities they learn to manage, is complete bullshit too.
"most likely"? So basically there's zero success stories from people who started in their garage and made a multi-billion empire? Go check how Google and Apple started. No one is stopping you from doing something great and becoming a billionaire other than your delusion of entitlement to free money and work from others.
Google began as a research project at Stanford and was funded by over a million dollars from stanford people and family of the founders. The guy who wrote the code wasn’t part of the founding.
Idk much about apple other than the guy who designed the apple 1 wanted to give away the schematics because it came from his time at a computer club but the other guy said no.
Dude, google started in a garage. There was even a story about that lady Suzan who was the YouTube CEO and how she was part of that garage. There are videos out there from the 90s showing how it looked like. Stop making shit up! There are f-ing videos proving you wrong! It was in a garage.
google started as a Stanford research project: In their own words.
google started with a million dollars from family, friends and investors
Are you doing an elaborate bit?
So what, just because there are investors they didn't start in a garage? Anyone with a good idea and a plan can get funding from VCs after booting up the idea.
What's wrong with you people? Seriously.
What are you trying to prove exactly? That no one can start a company? Everyone can it costs pennies. No one can get funding with a good idea and hard work? Anyone can and everyone does and I've seen this with my own eyes (recently I saw two brothers get 8 million USD funding for a freaking dumb NFT project). That no one can succeed except with connections? Not true, and examples are everywhere, including big tech today. What's the mission here exactly? Because the mission I see here is encouraging people to not even try and just be lazy because "there's no point".
What am I trying to prove? I'm trying to prove that anyone working hard has a chance, but sitting your ass and being lazy will give you no chance.
You said anyone could start a successful company with nothing and used google and apple as examples, using their onetime occupancy of garages to imply that they’re examples of companies starting from nothing.
They’re not examples of people starting with nothing and the presence of garages doesn’t change that fact.
Why not use some different examples to prove your point?
Because you don't know the personal examples I know. You can look up statistics of small businesses and startups and learn how to get funding. I think the average exit from a successful startup is in the 10s of millions USD after 5 years of work. It needs hard work, and it's not easy, because no one is gonna invest in your project unless you're dedicated. BUT, it's totally possible and I've seen it tons of times. I've seen idiots get more than $15 million funding. Some fail, some succeed. In fact the majority fail, but while they're failing they learn, and VCs have interest in investing because their expected returns based on statistics are higher than their investment on average.
There's so much work to be done before calling it quits, especially for someone who doesn't know what a VC is and how it works.
May I see the personal examples you know?
Would you like a copy of my passport too? Nice try.
And just in good faith I'll tell you again: The internet is flooded with stats on startups. You don't need to dox me here to get that information.
I don’t think it would be doxing to just say the startup examples you are thinking of. Certainly they’re not so small and insignificant that a person could easily narrow down your identity simply by the businesses you’re familiar with…
BLS says 25% of new businesses fail in the first year and only half make it to five. Zippia says only 40% of startups turn a profit and 90% fail.
Those are the first two results I saw.
neither really started in a garage: https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2014/dec/05/steve-wozniak-apple-starting-in-a-garage-is-a-myth
https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/5/17823490/google-20th-birthday-anniversary-history-milestones#:~:text=Initially%20known%20as%20BackRub%2C%20Google,on%20the%20World%20Wide%20Web.
you just drink the kool aid from billionaires thinking you'll be like one but you never will, the amount of money the 1% has is an amount noone should ever have
https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/
The simple fact that Gates' school even HAD a computer HE COULD RESERVE TIME ON for a personal project really highlights how much wealth he had access to. Gates was never super rich growing up, but he and the rest had access to privileges few had in those days because of the wealth they had access to.
Even if they truly started the business from modest means, they still benefited from living in a strong stable educated society with all the resources and infrastructure etc that provides. There's a reason you don't see many entrepreneurs from sub Saharan Africa.
There are videos out there showing this, so, don't believe the bullshit you read online to rile you up.
And in fact, if your sources on company success is random articles online, you do deserve to stay poor. Mission accomplished.
why do you think I'm poor? what videos? I provided sources you just pretend to be smart.
Because rich people don't cry on social media "the world is not fair, and I'm entitled to other people's free labor because I'm a loser". I have people around me from both sides of the aisle, and guess who complains like you are? Hint: It's not those who have good jobs and rare skills they busted their asses to get.
Videos: Off the top of my head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOtlSM9eehc
wtf are you even talking about?? when did I ever say anything like what you said?? I said that the myth that google and apple started in a garage is fake. That's it. Get the fuck out of your head and learn to read.
And you criticize my sources and provide a video without them.Really smart guy move.
Men these "libertarians, rugged individualist, free market" are fuckin retarded
Well, you can physically SEE THE FUCKING GARAGE. You'll believe some text over your own eyes?
Getting funding doesn't mean it's not a garage. Facebook started in a house in SF and before that it was in a freaking dorm, and got funding later. So what?! Does that mean it didn't start in a dorm room?
Yeah, go believe whatever makes you happy to believe that you're a loser no matter what. Believe that.
you better work on your reading comprehension my guy or is that not a valuable skill?
"They had funding from multiple people but they started in a garage!! So anyone can do it!"
We just need funding, parents with money or connections and going back to before the internet was widespread to make it, got it
Also, nice of you to not even backpedaling on calling me poor just cause your stupid ass is too stupid to read properly
If you know anything about today's economy you'll see how to get money from VCs, thanks to all the money printing and inflation. But you're so ignorant you can't recognize that. Go read a book on VC funding, but I guess you're too busy complaining on social media.
And no, I'm not backpedaling. You're either poor or too young with rich parents you don't understand basic reality and think you're helping with your stupid, uneducated ideas.
if your reading comprehension and assuming is even similar to what you show in this thread, I doubt you even understand basic shit. So yeah have a great day!
There's so many assholes on lemmy and the internet. Best not to engage this moron.
Between you and me though this is my "favorite" part of this delusional thread:
That Australian real estate billionaire literally just got on social media the other day whining about how employees need to be put in their place because they think they have rights and empowerment. It was one of the most outrageous things I've ever heard and I'm a pretty pro business person.
Even those people needed others' work to start their own company my dude. The chips in Apple computers or servers that Google relied on didn't grow on trees. Not to mention that the billionaires you mentioned were educated.
Guess who funded their education. Either directly or indirectly.
You're not gonna convince anyone here that you lack the resources to start a company in your bed room. You're just lazy and you don't want to work. It's that simple.
Evidence? Tons of millionaires don't even have college degree.
How many of those millionaires contribute something positive to the world? There are some who've made systems to automatically reset power breakers on distribution lines, automate management of water flow to large farms, etc.
Then there are morons like you who sell pillows filled with low quality foam out of their garage.
And who decides whether it's positive... you? You, Mr. Loser on lemmy who wants to quantify value, not based on people's valuation for it, who freaking paid for it, but based on whatever standard gives you free money so that you don't feel like such a loser serving coffee in Starbucks? Get out of here!
Uh, moron, look up the difference between "quantify" and "qualify". You've swapped them, but I'm not surprised.
Anyway yeah, in discussions with a large number of people across different walks of life, the important things in life seem to be clean running water, quality food and the ability to make positive change in the world we had no choice being born into.
What is positive change? Slightly nebulous, but it seems to center on making people around them happier and have an easier life. Money doesn't seem to factor into that, it's more about "quality" of life. Wouldn't you want that for your friends and family too?