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I keep on getting deflected off to like the western news sites for information about China and then it’s just the news site demonizing the country. I was just wondering coming from like a Marxist point of viewpoint figuring probably this would be the best place to look for some thing even probably neutral about China. Does anyone have good information about how the government is run along with accurate numbers of the death in the great leap forward that isn’t some kind of “100 million deaths under communism “type argument, or even like claim also, it would be also good to list if you’re interested in helping me sites about what was achieved in the great leap forward and in the rapid industrialization also consequences of that primarily anything environmental if there’s anything about the consequences also some decent information about censorship and what exactly is Chinese censorship? What is it look like and is it really that hard big or even what exactly is it censoring I don’t know too much about it and I would like to

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[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Here's your problem:

Say you find out a fact about China. How do you know if it was true or if someone made it up and is pretending it is true?

We recently saw reports that their Defence Minister has disappeared, and the ministry spokesperson basically said "no comment". If you were a journalist or scholar and thought this was maybe false, wouldn't you have to fly to China to really prove it? And if you flew to China to interfere with what they're trying to say, you might make Xi Jinping very angry, and he is one of Earth's most powerful men. Making him angry would be unwise.

Here in the States it's easy, we are free to question our government, you will not be jailed for asking questions unless you are doing something else illegal at the same time you are asking the questions. Things are not equally easy and free in China. They do not always agree with us on what things in life are important, and what things are unimportant--they have their own ways of living life that are different from ours sometimes.

All of this makes it virtually impossible to get genuinely reliable information about China's system without actually being a powerful member of China's system. So, to answer your question, the information is not accessible to us, and the kinda meh reporting we get is simply the absolute best that we can hope for. Better accuracy is simply unrealistic, since the system is not transparent.

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