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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by cyclohexane@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

So apparently there are two editors inspired by vim, but built from the ground up (as opposed to neovim, a vim fork that seeks to improve on top of vim).

I've heard of Helix several times prior, but it never quite attracted me. Seemed like vim, but different key bindings and much worse plugin system. It also has different visual and normal modes than vim, but it didn't quite click with me. I do like it's multi-cursor ability though.

Then it turns out that Helix was also inspired by not just vim, but also kakoune. Kakoune also has different keybindings, and different modes, but its different modes make sense to me. It fuses visual and normal mode into one. Your normal mode is for both navigation and selection.

Kakoune promotes the idea that you should visually see the text you're operating on before running the command. You know how in vim, "dd" deletes a line, "dw" deletes a word, and "d$" deletes to the end of the line? In vim, you don't see what you're deleting before its gone (which is fine and works for many). In kakoune, the selection happens first before the action. So you select the word or the line, and then you delete.

But what I found to be Kakoune's killer feature was its shell integration. Kakoune seemlessly integrates into the unix shell, allowing you to offload many tasks to it. For example, instead of it having a built-in sort command, you use the unix sort command to sort your lines.

I'm surprised kakoune isn't more popular. Yes, it is still in a much earlier phase than vim, and the ecosystem is far less mature, but I am surprised to see Helix gaining more traction.

I'm still very new to kakoune and exploring it. But I like it a lot so far.

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[-] downhomechunk@midwest.social 9 points 1 year ago

Is there something wrong with me because I haven't felt the need to use anything but pico since I started linuxing in the late 90s?

[-] lelgenio@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Maybe you don't have a short attention span 🤣 The only reason I use Kakoune is because I completely lose my train of thought if I can't get an edit done quick enough.

[-] downhomechunk@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

My ADHD is severe and all encompassing! I have a tendency to over complicate everything, and pico doesn't really let me do that.

[-] barrett9h@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

Nothing wrong, if don't spend daily hours editing text (or code).

[-] downhomechunk@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

I don't! I'm occasionally in config files for this or that. I'm a simple man with simple needs.

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