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I don't know what i hate more, being subjected to increasingly authoritarian christofascist rule in my country or having some punk looking down his nose at me and saying it's my own fault.
Pssssh.
Tell you what. When it happens to you, why don't you tell me what you hate more.
(Fuggen punks think theyre fighting ready just cuz they've never been tested, geez almighty.)
Oh shit.. love the ratm and/or the boss reference! Very different music, very similar representation :)
It's RATM and steinbeck, since the reference lead me to read the book and afterwards led me to many more truths. Thanks man! I am happy when people get the ref.
You fuck w Tortilla Flat? My favorite by far.
Oh my God tortilla flat is fucking brilliant. I thought it trite in the first couple chapters but i stuck it out and was proven a fool. By the end i loved every one of those guys and now i need to read it again
You from upstate NY? Around 40 yrs old? Did you give me this book in college? Bc you sound like a certain guy I know... Lol
What do you think RATM would think about these "don't criticize me for doing nothing" posts?
Tom and zach would both be embarrassed for you.
Firstly for your cowardly sock-puppetry, secondly for not knowing that those lyrics reference an important steinbeck character.
But cone. You have one more, right? One more name you use to pump upboats in your silly existence? Hurry and bring that one out to be clever as well
The irony of you calling someone cowardly. You didn't name your account "Tom Joad", you named it in reference to the song, which is explicitly a social protest song from people willing to actually do something rather than complain about being shamed. This isn't quite Paul Ryan loving Rage while being the actual machine, but what a monumental lack of introspection.
"Where there's a fight 'gainst the blood and hatred in the air, look for me, mom, I'll be there."
Clearly Tom and Zach would echo this sentiment. Authoritarianism or someone looking down their nose at your inaction, who's to say which is worse?
How long did it take you to write this? I won't be satisfied until i know you've wasted as much time thinking i might be worth your time as i did with you
LOL. Coming back and replying a second time as the person who already read and responded to a grandchild comment tangentially about them really screams "I'm not bothered".
You're actually right. Especially now that I've got 5 beers in me and can't tell if you're some new cunt whiteknighting for the punk i schooled, or if youre the same dumb cunt i taught a lesson to before.
I've already wasted so much time giving a fuck about losers and low intellect arguments tonight. Frankly, i have to cede this win.
You win.
You win, you fucking monkeys.
See ya tomorrow, you goddamn beautiful pieces of shit
It's a new day baby
I got a few words in and got really bored. Dou you have any last words?
Yeah.. shocking.. victim blaming coming from tough guys
Victim blaming and undeserved arrogance come from the same type of folks, huh? The best (only good) part of interacting with these losers is the fact we're on a public forum. At least then there are others to witness the interaction and see how dumb they look. I can only hope
Fuck you
;)
Oh, you were agreeing with the punk? Geez i am surprised. I wonder if it matters to you that you wasted my time just now?
Probably not, huh? It's kinda you're thing, huh? Being clever?
Americans largely haven't had much of a choice. In states where the laws are decent and political corruption isn't heavily entrenched, things are alright and the system isn't totally broken. But in places where it has? There's less and less ability to vote in more reasonable laws.
The problems are systemic. The same states have shitty education systems, mass voter disenfranchisement of prisoners and anyone else they can justify taking the vote from, extensive gerrymandering, and every other form of corruption and political inefficiency. The major population centers take a very different approach, but they have to compete with these backward and broken states through an electoral system that skews the results in their favor.
Trying to take direct action outside of the official political framework is also problematic. In Europe you've got the benefit of an extremely high population density and a relatively small area regardless of which country you're in. In the US everything is extremely spread out. The result is that protest is often not terribly effective. You might be able to shut down a couple of streets, but there's no way you're disturbing commerce for more than a single metropolitan area (of which there are many) at a time. It's the same reason mass public transit runs into issues: we're way too spread out for strategies that require high and comparatively uniform population density.
That doesn't mean there's no answer, but it does mean we're going to have to get a little more creative.
People take for granted what made Occupy special. We all rally around the fact that folks that normally wouldn't recognize they're all the 99% came together. But the real win was that it was everywhere all at once all the time.
Right, but compare the effort to the results. People were bussing in from all over the country, but like what actually changed?
Same thing with the BLM protests. The largest protest movement in American history and... nothing changed. COVID kills a million plus Americans and all that changed is OSHA was banned from enforcing worker safety measures. No extra disease tracking, no countrywide efforts to improve air quality. We're stuck in a quagmire where leaders just wait out problems rather than needing to address them.
No we definitely don't enjoy this, it's the same reason we all love to say "eat the rich" and "it's guillotine time" and then do absofuckinglutley nothing about it. No one wants to be the one to start something absolutely crazy, we all deep down believe that we can somehow fix this within the system as opposed to throwing Molotovs. :/
It sounds like that belief is worth having a look at again.
Sounds like you don't have any real-life experience with the American political system.
Yeah, we shouldn't have been walking outside wearing that..
Largest protests in history (at least at the time) were against invading Iraq in the lead-up to the war. Democrats protest, but Republicans VOTE. That's why they run everything from a minority position.
No, they gerrymander. They lose on popular vote all the time.
So we're going to protest our way around gerrymandering now?
It's gerrymandered because people voted in 6he reps who gerrymandered everything. Things didn't get gerrymandered by the GOP protesting for more gerrymandering.