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When the Catholic Church stops covering up the rampant sexual abuse and money grubbing cash grab scam operations then maybe I'll give two flying shits about what the Pope has to say.
People tend to overlook the fact that the words of someone with this level of influence are vitally important and can have enormous effects on the world.
Whether you in particular care about a famous/rich person's comments or not, there are millions that do--and that is important. Important enough that even without respecting that person, we should always take what they say and do very seriously.
You bring up a valid point so I won't debate. I still despise the institution that he represents and hope it all burns to the ground though.
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I really enjoyed this comment chain. Fuck organised religions, and this one in particular.
And for a musical coup de grace
I don't know why, but my mind went to this before watching your video.
It's from the Netflix show Sex Education, in case anyone wants to watch all of it. They just dropped the final season.
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Thanks for that, cheered me up at half 5 in the morning when I felt like garbage.
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We can hate the institution and still accept their help preventing the world from dying.
Enemy of my enemy, and climate crisis is everyones enemy. I would accept mafia support too, at this point.
It’s fine you don’t care, but there’s something like 1.4 billion Catholics that probably do.
Most Catholics don't listen to the Pope. The Pope says Catholics must accept gay people, but go to the third world or central america and see if Catholics follow that one.
The Pope says Catholics must accept Gay people, but won't give them the same right to marriage as straight people. Hypocrisy, although I guess he's probably worried all his clergy will try and marry the kids they're abusing.
News about what the head of the Catholic church does is as important as news about what the head of USA, China or Russia does. It's hugely influencial even when it comes to lives of non-catholics, non-americans, non-chinese... because of the massive number of people that belong to the religion or state and the power that religion or state has. It's a good thing the pope talks against fossil fuel companies, because his influence is big.
Many times the victims of priest sexual abuse have approached the Vatican for a meeting and blessing from the pope. Every time the pope has turned them away and refused to even acknowledge their existence, or their plight. His lawyers tell him it's not a good idea. And of course the representative of god, flanked by lawyers and bankers, listens to his lawyers over god.
Where did you hear that? These articles seem to say the opposite.
2014 - https://www.cnn.com/2014/07/07/world/pope-clerical-sex-abuse/
2015 - https://www.cnn.com/2015/09/27/us/pope-francis-sex-abuse-victims/index.html
2018 - https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/37774/pope-francis-regularly-meets-with-abuse-victims-on-fridays
2023 - https://www.foxnews.com/world/pope-francis-holds-private-meetings-sex-abuse-victims-ukrainian-pilgrims
Yet he ascended the ranks of the church while all that happened. Swell guy. I'm sure he knew nothing about it until he became pope...
Sexual abuse happens in virtually every organization. The main issue is how it is dealt with. The catholic church has a long issue of dealing with issues internally, but this was definitely one that was not being handled correctly. Francis has made it clear that he is willing to face the issue head-on now that he has the power.
We do not have to turn a blind eye to their past mistakes, but we should also acknowledge what they are actually doing to work on those mistakes instead of spreading misinformation about them still hiding from it.
I especially liked it when he faced it head-on in Chile by saying all the allegations were "calumny".
Definitely some odd choices here. Condemns the main abuser to a life-time of penance and prayer and then totally dismisses any claims that the abuser's protege may have seen the abuse.
It does seem he eventually changed his tune, but not before seriously harming his credibility on the issue.
https://www.npr.org/2018/06/11/618825779/pope-francis-accepts-resignations-of-3-bishops-over-chilean-abuse-scandal
He also likes to threaten them with legal action.
Can't upset the oil companies, where do you think that lube they use for altar boys comes from? A cloud in the sky?