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[-] MrPommeroy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

In a physical health perspective, smoking is the cause, or contributing factor, to a lot of problems. In what perspective is smoking a symptom?

[-] Fondots@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

So don't get me wrong, I fully support this kind of measure.

But there's potentially an argument to be made that there is an issue (or more likely multiple issues) that isn't being addressed properly that is leading people to choose to smoke. It's well known to be harmful, addictive, and frankly doesn't have many upsides. What that bigger issue could be is kind of up for debate- is it a failure of the education system or health system not doing enough to educate people about the harm and risks? Is it a mental health issue leading people to choose self destructive behaviors or possibly a conscious or subconscious attempt to self medicate those issue? Is it a societal issue like peer pressure, portrayals in the media, people emulating role models, or just plain old rebellion? Is it due to regulations or enforcement being too lax?

Whatever it is, there may a root cause that isn't being sufficiently addressed that makes people choose destructive behaviors like smoking, which makes smoking a symptom of that bigger issue. And what other vices are those same factors pushing people towards? Maybe addressing those kinds of underlying issues the right way might do more good than just getting people to stop smoking, maybe we'd kill 2 birds with one stone and also make headway on other substance abuse issues, or gambling addictions, etc.

Now again, I'm totally in support of this kind of regulation. Sometimes you need to treat the symptoms before/while to treat the underlying disease. But we need to be sure we're looking at it from both angles.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I take the view that smoking is a behavior that is largely impacted by socioeconomic factors. To put it plainly, it's something you mostly see among the poor.

https://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/30/4/380

[-] FlowVoid@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

it's something you mostly see among the poor.

It is, until it isn't.

And when it isn't, we should all cheer.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Okay.

I'm just sorta reading what the researchers said. Did I misread it? Are they wrong?

[-] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

no shot they read it

[-] bobman@unilem.org 0 points 1 year ago

So is drinking.

I guess we ban alcohol too, huh. Oh wait, we tried that.

You must be one of the, "I don't like it so neither should anyone else" people.

[-] drekly@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

"we tried that" do you know who sunak is?

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